What do you think of the point allotment system?

[Rentahamster]

What part em i not getting? enlighten me.

If you'll notice, I quoted Kilta's post, therefore, I was responding to him that maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about, not you.

[Randis]

If you'll notice, I quoted Kilta's post, therefore, I was responding to him that maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about, not you.

I apologize... It seems i am too tired to read/post... the quote started with my name and i mixed it up :P
my bad
Time to sleep

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

The reason why the point allotment system is a bust is due to the stat modifiers being incredibly worthless past a certain point. (Except VIT and MND due to the usefulness of HP/MP, of course.)

1->120: Increased results
[You should be able to allot an attribute in the 100-115 range in your late 30's]
121->173: Diminishing results
[ I would even go as far as saying they are significant diminishing results. Players with attributes in this range are given a placebo effect, basically.]
174 = Soft cap
[This can go higher with gear, but you will see absolutely no results]

The problem, which the Dev team is aware of btw, is that your performance can be topped off in basically your late 30's and the rest relies heavily on your rank vs mob rank. What is being worked on are the formulas for attributes and how they modify your spells and skills. Really the physical rank at a certain point is just simply a placebo, incredibly worthless, and is just a cock block to a war or magic disciple (which ever you are mainly alloted towards).

Removing the physical levels, simplifying the formulas, and letting each class allot gives this attribute system more freedom. Currently, you cannot be the ultimate this or that, but the equal this or that being how your increased attributes are giving diminishing results roughly during your mid ranks. If done correctly and balanced well enough, the attributes will be able to form your play style and stand out while doing so.

[Randis]

Individual point allotment for every job with 'reassign' function.. I would like that.
But I would prefer keeping the physical level and being able to save stat profiles (more than 1 per job)
More than 1 so I can play various builds of each job if I want to.
I have high hopes that the stat fixes will come with the new battle system.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

"Currently, you cannot be the ultimate this or that,"

This is why I feel not everyone gets the system. techi from my understanding, each class wasn't a seperate enitity. But a classification your currently on. Your not suppose to be "the best" in each, but use each of the skills to improve your character. Clues are, only 3 action bars, cross class abilities, skills under the weapon or style and not the name.

Gladiator isn't a job. Just a classification. Seems you guys think its a job.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Individual point allotment for every job with 'reassign' function.. I would like that.
But I would prefer keeping the physical level and being able to save stat profiles (more than 1 per job)
More than 1 so I can play various builds of each job if I want to.
I have high hopes that the stat fixes will come with the new battle system.

they are classes not jobs. There is a differance. This isn't ffxi.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

If you'll notice, I quoted Kilta's post, therefore, I was responding to him that maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about, not you.

I do know what I'm talking about. Seems most ppl thing the classes are jobs. Much like in ffxi. With set stats and skills. But that isn't the case as we can use our skills on any other classes just about. If you consider the classes jobs similar to ffxi, your not gonna under stand the system. Which is what happen. People are not used to a more freer set up, such as mabinogi or other stuff. They are used to a set class which have set skills which have a set role.

This isn't that type of system. Classes do not really have set skills or set roles. If they did we wouldn't have cross class abilities.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Individual point allotment for every job with 'reassign' function.. I would like that.
But I would prefer keeping the physical level and being able to save stat profiles (more than 1 per job)
More than 1 so I can play various builds of each job if I want to.
I have high hopes that the stat fixes will come with the new battle system.

Yes, but... with the new formulas this could make classes that are R1 on become too over powered. Which is why they would need to get rid of physical levels.

Letting each class allot as they progress could prove to be much more balanced, but there is only one way of knowing....

they are classes not jobs. There is a differance. This isn't ffxi.

This is rude and unnecessary. We know what he means and you know what he means. It isn't the correct terminology, but it was a comprehensive comment.

[Randis]

lol, i call em jobs as i am used from FFTT.
Kilta, beat it, it does not really matter how you call em, it does not change the facts.

You obviously don’t know about class affinity. Mixing skills only goes that far.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I do know what I'm talking about. Seems most ppl thing the classes are jobs. Much like in ffxi. With set stats and skills. But that isn't the case as we can use our skills on any other classes just about. If you consider the classes jobs similar to ffxi, your not gonna under stand the system. Which is what happen. People are not used to a more freer set up, such as mabinogi or other stuff. They are used to a set class which have set skills which have a set role.

This isn't that type of system. Classes do not really have set skills or set roles. If they did we wouldn't have cross class abilities.

You are new it looks like, so, it doesn't surprise me that you see things this way. However, everyone knows by now that the current class system is eventually morphing into a job system. Which is why you may see the reference even indirectly. I sometimes subconsciously refer to them as jobs as I'm preparing for them to be reworked into that system.

I agree, it isn't correct right now, but right now is a good discussion to look at what doesn't work and make suggestions towards what we know is inevitable. A job system.

Edit: when reading this back it sort of sounds like I'm talking down to you because you seem new. So sorry if it comes off as such. I was just saying that it doesn't surprise me because you're still taking everything in. Which is completely okay, of course.