Seriously give the game time?

[Mishakai]

18 pages of people feeding a troll? Come on guys, report it and move on.

Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.

[Gramul]

Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.

Not much. They only really started working on it 5 months ago, and one of those months was lost due to a natural disaster. They also probably have to do a lot of restructuring of the games code, as it sounds like it wasn't designed with change in mind.

Should it have been better out the door? Yes. But it's not something we can linger on. The past is the past, and we can't change that. We can look back on it to learn from our mistakes, but we can't linger on what might have been. Yoshi is carefully and diligently moving forward because he wants to make sure he does it right. Most of the reason of the games poor launch was because it was rushed out before completion and they relied too much on shortcuts in the games design.

[Elexia]

Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.

I agree, even after time and time again SE stated content will be coming, especially AFTER THEY FINISH REDESIGNING THE FOUNDATION, AS IN THE BATTLE SYSTEM AND CLASS AND JOB SYSTEM people should know that it will take time and people will just bitch and whine and moan and complain about the content like they already do now.

People will complain no matter what. They add serious content? People will bitch the game is still not as responsive as it should be.

Therefore they want the foundation redesigned first.

[Arcell]

I realize development takes time, but development shouldn't take 7 months for a few ui changes.

I addressed this in an early post. We've seen quite a few large additions to the game in just April alone. Your statement is invalid.

[Elexia]

I addressed this in an early post. We've seen quite a few large additions to the game in just April alone. Your statement is invalid.

That's the troll in him talking, then questions why people consider him a troll.

[Greencactaur]

I mean do you really consider a few ui changes a good patch? I mean WOO EQUIPMENT HAS ITS OWN TAB is that really an amazing patch? Can you really consider that good? =\ I guess no matter what happens its just fanboys will be fanboys the thing is most of you are going to defend fanboys cause this is a FF forum, but the general public would say the patches are coming way to slow for things to ever be fixed. I mean thing of the release then look at now really nothings changed, I mean yeah sure they've improved the Ui a little bit, but is those 7 or 8 ui changes in the pass 7 months enough to suffice for your taste? What I'm saying is lets look at the overall game and the speed of patches and lets look at how and what exactly changes. most patches are Ui changes and yet you guys are happy with that? Sure progress is progress, but What I'm trying to say is if everyone says SE move faster they'll have no choice, but to move faster. If everyone says remake the game they'll have no choice to remake the game. At this point its a lost cause and they really do just need to either scratch it or be releasing a patch every week otherwise the games just going to die. I mean its already dead sorry. each server barely breaking 300 people isn't going to be enough to keep the servers up even if they all pay the monthly fee.Also don't think of this thread as a troll I mean were just two parties speaking our opinions which is true, but what I'm saying does have a point to some extent. If things don't get fixed faster how does the game have any hope in surviving

[Akumu]

I agree, even after time and time again SE stated content will be coming, especially AFTER THEY FINISH REDESIGNING THE FOUNDATION, AS IN THE BATTLE SYSTEM AND CLASS AND JOB SYSTEM people should know that it will take time and people will just bitch and whine and moan and complain about the content like they already do now.

People will complain no matter what. They add serious content? People will bitch the game is still not as responsive as it should be.

Therefore they want the foundation redesigned first.

I agree.

If SE would have worked on the serious content and released it what would be the result? We might enjoy it but once the changes happen and the current content doesn't fit the changes people will cry about how SE broke the game even more. Then if they didn't overhaul the game(so it would fit) people would complain how they aren't listening to us.

I think the current path is a lot more beneficial compared to the other. 70% of the Eorzea you know now is going to be changed completely so how can they rush that and put endgame on top of it.

People need to understand a few things and drill it into their head if it cannot penetrate.

1)The game has not been in development for 5 years.
2)The same dev team isn't working on it right now(All the top spots were replaced)
3)The first month in they were learning their team(as stated by Yoshi)
4)There was a disaster in Japan that delayed it another month
5)The most important: The game code is fucked which is why the "simple" changes turn out to be not so simple and we have to wait for things like a mailbox system.

They have been in what 5 months now(correct me if i'm wrong)? So they had a solid 3 months of development time working at 100%. Also with the code being as is and disasters hitting Japan I applaud SE for moving at the pace they have been. Would I love A LOT MOAR NAO!?!?! Of course but people need to stop crying over spilled milk and chill out.

[Elexia]

Yeah, though I don't put it past people since MMOs these days are generally just copy and pasted with different names for the same content, so there's no long run vision to be seen and people only learned about the short term "what I want" that MMOs coddled to.

[Akumu]

Yeah, though I don't put it past people since MMOs these days are generally just copy and pasted with different names for the same content, so there's no long run vision to be seen and people only learned about the short term "what I want" that MMOs coddled to.

People are getting too used to the copy/paste of other MMOs which allows such quick changes/additions to the game since the foundation is already laid out for them. If SE copied the WoW foundation and threw a FF skin on it i'm positive things would be moving a lot faster but at what cost?

[Arcell]

I mean do you really consider a few ui changes a good patch? I mean WOO EQUIPMENT HAS ITS OWN TAB is that really an amazing patch? Can you really consider that good? =\ I guess no matter what happens its just fanboys will be fanboys the thing is most of you are going to defend fanboys cause this is a FF forum, but the general public would say the patches are coming way to slow for things to ever be fixed. I mean thing of the release then look at now really nothings changed, I mean yeah sure they've improved the Ui a little bit, but is those 7 or 8 ui changes in the pass 7 months enough to suffice for your taste? What I'm saying is lets look at the overall game and the speed of patches and lets look at how and what exactly changes. most patches are Ui changes and yet you guys are happy with that? Sure progress is progress, but What I'm trying to say is if everyone says SE move faster they'll have no choice, but to move faster. If everyone says remake the game they'll have no choice to remake the game. At this point its a lost cause and they really do just need to either scratch it or be releasing a patch every week otherwise the games just going to die. I mean its already dead sorry. each server barely breaking 300 people isn't going to be enough to keep the servers up even if they all pay the monthly fee.Also don't think of this thread as a troll I mean were just two parties speaking our opinions which is true, but what I'm saying does have a point to some extent. If things don't get fixed faster how does the game have any hope in surviving

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't play this game or ever read any patch notes. Otherwise you'd know there are more than a few UI changes over the 7 months. So again I reiterate:

You keep saying it takes them a month to add in 1 small UI change, let's take a look at what we've seen from April:

Roughly 2 dozen sidequests (many company-related).

Adjustments to guild marks rewards.

Party size reduction to 8.

Readjustment of enemy values in regards to this.

Addition of 20 NMs for mid-rank.

Unique items to go with all of them.

Enemy distribution changes.

Addition of aggro and rank icon toggle.

Addition of daily guild tasks.

Various other UI adjustments

Various bug fixes.


Yeah they sure did take months to add a single UI change.

This was JUST April and I left out a lot of the smaller stuff they changed. If you want I can go and pull all the major points out of all the patches under the current team.

300 people on each server? Where are you getting your numbers? I'd really love to see the source on it. No seriously, post it and I'll believe you if it's true.

I don't see how they could honestly move any faster. 2 patches a month is unheard of in most MMOs, it's a pretty intense speed. Not to mention they're doing this in sub-par conditions just so they can have the servers running.