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    They need to make bold design choices and they need to put a lot more funding behind them, otherwise they will fail. Maybe it won't happen overnight, but it there will be a gradual decline as TERA, GW2, and ArcheAge hit the shelf, all of which offer more than FFXIV has so far delivered (and also promised).

    SE makes it look like they're moving mountains just to implement an Instanced Dungeon or a new NM that isn't just a reskin of an old monster. Other upcoming MMOs have multiple dungeons, multiple zones, and multiple boss monsters purely because they recognise what is expected from customers and also what is required to make it against competitors. If FFXIV wasn't veiled in so much Final Fantasy nostalgia and graphical prowess, nobody would play it. And nobody will continue to play it if that's all it offers.

    An instanced dungeon every ten months and a new NM just as often is so not guying to fly.

    Greencactuar has a point.
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    18 pages of people feeding a troll? Come on guys, report it and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo View Post
    18 pages of people feeding a troll? Come on guys, report it and move on.
    Then stop bumping it by posting. And go change your settings to display 40 posts per page.
    18 pages? So inefficient..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega View Post
    Then stop bumping it by posting. And go change your settings to display 40 posts per page.
    18 pages? So inefficient..
    OMG you can do that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo View Post
    18 pages of people feeding a troll? Come on guys, report it and move on.
    Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.
    Not much. They only really started working on it 5 months ago, and one of those months was lost due to a natural disaster. They also probably have to do a lot of restructuring of the games code, as it sounds like it wasn't designed with change in mind.

    Should it have been better out the door? Yes. But it's not something we can linger on. The past is the past, and we can't change that. We can look back on it to learn from our mistakes, but we can't linger on what might have been. Yoshi is carefully and diligently moving forward because he wants to make sure he does it right. Most of the reason of the games poor launch was because it was rushed out before completion and they relied too much on shortcuts in the games design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Sorry, but the OP has a valid point. I, like most, are being as patient as possible with this game, but they really need to add some serious content to this game. Yes, content takes time to make, so people can just stop it with the cop out excuses, they have had time. It's time for SE to nut up or shut up.
    I agree, even after time and time again SE stated content will be coming, especially AFTER THEY FINISH REDESIGNING THE FOUNDATION, AS IN THE BATTLE SYSTEM AND CLASS AND JOB SYSTEM people should know that it will take time and people will just bitch and whine and moan and complain about the content like they already do now.

    People will complain no matter what. They add serious content? People will bitch the game is still not as responsive as it should be.

    Therefore they want the foundation redesigned first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    I agree, even after time and time again SE stated content will be coming, especially AFTER THEY FINISH REDESIGNING THE FOUNDATION, AS IN THE BATTLE SYSTEM AND CLASS AND JOB SYSTEM people should know that it will take time and people will just bitch and whine and moan and complain about the content like they already do now.

    People will complain no matter what. They add serious content? People will bitch the game is still not as responsive as it should be.

    Therefore they want the foundation redesigned first.
    I agree.

    If SE would have worked on the serious content and released it what would be the result? We might enjoy it but once the changes happen and the current content doesn't fit the changes people will cry about how SE broke the game even more. Then if they didn't overhaul the game(so it would fit) people would complain how they aren't listening to us.

    I think the current path is a lot more beneficial compared to the other. 70% of the Eorzea you know now is going to be changed completely so how can they rush that and put endgame on top of it.

    People need to understand a few things and drill it into their head if it cannot penetrate.

    1)The game has not been in development for 5 years.
    2)The same dev team isn't working on it right now(All the top spots were replaced)
    3)The first month in they were learning their team(as stated by Yoshi)
    4)There was a disaster in Japan that delayed it another month
    5)The most important: The game code is fucked which is why the "simple" changes turn out to be not so simple and we have to wait for things like a mailbox system.


    They have been in what 5 months now(correct me if i'm wrong)? So they had a solid 3 months of development time working at 100%. Also with the code being as is and disasters hitting Japan I applaud SE for moving at the pace they have been. Would I love A LOT MOAR NAO!?!?! Of course but people need to stop crying over spilled milk and chill out.
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    I think you guys are failing to understand. I'm not a troll all I'm saying is If SE doesn't employ more people updates are going to come way to slowly for the game to be fixed. If they're having trouble adding mounts with the time they've been given then how do you expect them to release future content and small stuff like mounts player housing etc. When games like Wow releases mounts almost every patch and new achivements etc. Not only wow, but much like gifthorse said look at all that and its in beta. Look at rift which had a solid release and had 2million subscribers a week after its release and at this time it has like 2.5million. I realize you guys don't want wow and thats FINE no one is saying this game is going to be like Wow I'm just saying take the good stuff from other mmo's and implement them. I realize development takes time, but development shouldn't take 7 months for a few ui changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencactaur View Post
    I think you guys are failing to understand. I'm not a troll all I'm saying is If SE doesn't employ more people updates are going to come way to slowly for the game to be fixed. If they're having trouble adding mounts with the time they've been given then how do you expect them to release future content and small stuff like mounts player housing etc. When games like Wow releases mounts almost every patch and new achivements etc. Not only wow, but much like gifthorse said look at all that and its in beta. Look at rift which had a solid release and had 2million subscribers a week after its release and at this time it has like 2.5million. I realize you guys don't want wow and thats FINE no one is saying this game is going to be like Wow I'm just saying take the good stuff from other mmo's and implement them. I realize development takes time, but development shouldn't take 7 months for a few ui changes.
    Thank you for making an honest and mature post. But you shouldn't worry about the mounts, because they aren't high priority for Square, because they aren't high priority for the players. When Square fixes the old content, they can start developing the new content, and when they do, it will be easier to add new features and options into that content. For example, ever sense sidequest have been implemented, we've been getting them every update.
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