Well count 1 less potential tank to no longer even try a dungeon unless my ls wants to go in with me.

I tried a few times and asked for advice if I am missing something as I never played pld much in 1.0 or 2.0.
In the end noone does anything but complain and rolls eyes, there is no point in trying as i can't learn the dungeon runs if noone works with me, so how am I supposed to be a better tank. I do learn fast but without tips of how to do it right I can't read minds. The guides are nice for understanding some abilities but it does nothing for someone who needs the mistakes pointed out so they can not repeat them by the time they get to the boss.

So if you want to not support the tank then don't gripe there are no tanks, I was willing to give it a go, and as people will tell you given the right advice i become very good at the jobs I take on. Needless to say I will stick with whm which I am good at and DD.