i am determined to see this go to 400 pages, i first logged in at page 190something....been in and out of it all day, between customers, while i was on hold, between more haircuts...on hold longer......before dinner, after dinner, went for a walk to the corner coffee shop, stopped by my bud's bicycle shop...came back to thread.....hung out on the front stoop with another bud and smoked a nice cigar....back to this thread