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[Cairdeas]

Grimm you can enhance the marketward to fix those issues without implementing a bidding system that can be corrupted. Most people who are against an auction house are not against the conveniences it provides just an arbitrary blind or timed bidding system.

[Grimm]

Grimm you can enhance the marketward to fix those issues without implementing a bidding system that can be corrupted. Most people who are against an auction house are not against the conveniences it provides just an arbitrary blind or timed bidding system.

But the way the wards are right now all they are is a very very slow version of an AH. You can see selling prices so it's very easy to low ball someone.

[Cairdeas]

But the way the wards are right now all they are is a very very slow version of an AH. You can see selling prices so it's very easy to low ball someone.

That has nothing to do with bidding and instead is an evolution in the economy. When a player can make an item for profit cheaper then you or is just trying to get rid of inventory then theres nothing stopping them. Thats how a free market works. The problem is that in a MMO you can't entice people to buy your product over anothers because they are all static items. a Pearl Ring is always a Pearl Ring. You can't turn your Cheap MP3 player into an iPod for instance. So people will always just buy the cheapest.

This happens in any mmo and any mmo economy. And it isn't something anyone should get upset over. If someone else can still profit off an item you are selling for more then either you need to figure out whats allowing them to sell it for so much cheaper and still be profitable to them and adapt their strategy or you need to take the loss and get rid of inventory. Right now any non-nm drop or item crafted off nm drop sold for more then 100k is over priced because of simple inflation. Which the Guild Tasks are trying to fight by forcing items out of the inventory.

[Grimm]

That has nothing to do with bidding and instead is an evolution in the economy. When a player can make an item for profit cheaper then you or is just trying to get rid of inventory then theres nothing stopping them. Thats how a free market works. The problem is that in a MMO you can't entice people to buy your product over anothers because they are all static items. a Pearl Ring is always a Pearl Ring. You can't turn your Cheap MP3 player into an iPod for instance. So people will always just buy the cheapest.

This happens in any mmo and any mmo economy. And it isn't something anyone should get upset over. If someone else can still profit off an item you are selling for more then either you need to figure out whats allowing them to sell it for so much cheaper and still be profitable to them and adapt their strategy or you need to take the loss and get rid of inventory. Right now any non-nm drop or item crafted off nm drop sold for more then 100k is over priced because of simple inflation. Which the Guild Tasks are trying to fight by forcing items out of the inventory.

Okay so what is corrupt about an AH?

[Cairdeas]

Okay so what is corrupt about an AH?

Blind Bidding with a Price History allows RMT Manipulation. A group of 5 RMT's can completely decimate the economy of a game in less then a month if they try hard enough. Simply by buying all the stock of an item thats in demand but has low quantity and then force the price history up artificially by selling it to themselves over and over at a higher price then the item would naturally be worth.

Timed Bidding... Well thats timed bidding, It takes too long to be valuable to the player. Some games can have an item up for almost 7 days worth of bidding when you need the item now.

[Grimm]

Blind Bidding with a Price History allows RMT Manipulation. A group of 5 RMT's can completely decimate the economy of a game in less then a month if they try hard enough. Simply by buying all the stock of an item thats in demand but has low quantity and then force the price history up artificially by selling it to themselves over and over at a higher price then the item would naturally be worth.

Timed Bidding... Well thats timed bidding, It takes too long to be valuable to the player. Some games can have an item up for almost 7 days worth of bidding when you need the item now.

They should do buyout only no price history only current listed prices like the wards. That is one thing I think the wards got right no history. I do like the wards but if I'm in a hurry it's too much of a hassle they should make it more time friendly I wouldn't mind paying extra tax and buying the item from the search feature.

[Cairdeas]

They should do buyout only no price history only current listed prices like the wards. That is one thing I think the wards got right no history. I do like the wards but if I'm in a hurry it's too much of a hassle they should make it more time friendly I wouldn't mind paying extra tax and buying the item from the search feature.

If its only buy out its still not a Auction house and can be implemented which is what we've been trying to say this whole time.