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    Quote Originally Posted by Thsscks View Post
    What's with all the people acting like they are all offended in the most hurtful ways?
    He was just trying to help get a mistunderstanding out of the community. If you don't like his opinion that's fine but don't make a bigger deal out of it than it is.
    He's not forcing anything down other people's throat or acting like a know-it-all elitest jerk. Well atleast not in my eyes.
    Not intentionally anyway.
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    was a good read. And op is correct about the classes. Simply put, we change our classes just by changing our weapon. And we can use the abilities we learned on other classes. Unlike ffxi or other mmo, where our job and classes have set skills and abilities. Unless this changes, then it hasn't changed.
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    Nice post Cairdeas. ^-^ It was a good read.
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    Is the fatigue system really being removed?
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    Fatigue or Surplus? Fatigue as in gathering fatigue, not the reduced gain in SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron View Post
    Fatigue or Surplus? Fatigue as in gathering fatigue, not the reduced gain in SP.
    Right now they only confirmed SP Fatigue, I do not know about gathering Fatigue. Gathering Fatigue is a anti-RMT measure not a pacing measure.
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    I know what it is :P People tend to use the terms fatigue and surplus interchangeably. But in the case of DoLs, it means 2 different things; SP Surplus (pacing measure as you call it) and gathering fatigue (i.e. the limit on the items you can gather over a certain time).

    Maybe SE themselves should come up with clearly distinct terms for the 2. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron View Post
    I know what it is :P People tend to use the terms fatigue and surplus interchangeably. But in the case of DoLs, it means 2 different things; SP Surplus (pacing measure as you call it) and gathering fatigue (i.e. the limit on the items you can gather over a certain time).

    Maybe SE themselves should come up with clearly distinct terms for the 2. *shrug*
    If they called the SP system Rested XP no one would have complained :P
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    So we should stop calling what we want an auction house? But that is the most common term in MMOs for what 1/2 the population wants. I'm sorry it seems like you are just trying to prove you have far greater intellect than everyone else here at lest the English speakers. Most people know that game AH are far different than real auctions.

    The Direct Way - Just buy the item right off. This seems a bit unfair to the Retainers and Vendors. Because when you go and view a Retainers inventory for a specific item you might see they sell an item you might buy if the price is right. So instead of you just buying one item you buy 2. This benefits both players and I feel is lost with the Direct way. .
    It's unfair to save the players time? Plus how will you know it is a fair price for the item unless you search it? Oh and to do that you have to walk back to the exit then someone selling it cheaper might be in a different ward.

    I'm sorry all arguments against a AH are invalid. It's a lot faster than the wards and does the same crap. I wont have to zone in a AH every item I want a different item. The wards have improved but they are still a time sink. I should not have to feel annoyed when I need to go buy something from what we currently have but I and a lot of people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    So we should stop calling what we want an auction house? But that is the most common term in MMOs for what 1/2 the population wants. I'm sorry it seems like you are just trying to prove you have far greater intellect than everyone else here at lest the English speakers.



    It's unfair to save the players time? Plus how will you know it is a fair price for the item unless you search it? Oh and to do that you have to walk back to the exit then someone selling it cheaper might be in a different ward.

    I'm sorry all arguments against a AH are invalid. It's a lot faster than the wards and does the same crap. I wont have to zone in a AH every item I want a different item. The wards have improved but they are still a time sink. I should not have to feel annoyed when I need to go buy something from what we currently have but I and a lot of people do.
    Every "Auction House" in the MMO industry has some form of bidding. What people are asking for doesn't. There for its not an Auction House.

    Also please don't cut the quote. It makes it sound out of context.

    The Direct Way - Just buy the item right off. This seems a bit unfair to the Retainers and Vendors. Because when you go and view a Retainers inventory for a specific item you might see they sell an item you might buy if the price is right. So instead of you just buying one item you buy 2. This benefits both players and I feel is lost with the Direct way.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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