MMO Launches

[Aviva]

Rocky launches aside, this could have been alleviated a bit had phase 4 not been for 3 days. Hardly a test.

I can agree with that.

[Alhanelem]

Rocky launches aside, this could have been alleviated a bit had phase 4 not been for 3 days. Hardly a test.

Making phase 4 longer wouldn't have alliviated anything. These problems are occuring because the load on the servers was much greater than in the beta (from all the people who bought the game who didn't play during the beta. Many of the random people preordering from gamestop or other places may not have even known about it)

[Azurus]

As much as you all want to complain he is a little right heres one example after just a short amount of searching.
http://forums.riftgame.com/general-d...index2253.html

i think you all will see a commonality.

I played rift for quite some time from Beta well through release and it was nowhere near as bad as this. It was worst for the EU customers just because trion had shitty EU support but it was still a lot smoother than this. I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago....

An expansion to an already existing game with a plateau'd population doesn't count as an "MMO launch." WoW's launch was very rough with long login queues and other issues when it started. Counting one of WoW's expansions among MMO launchis is just ludicrous.

not really true considering the amount of people who would come back for WoW expansion launches often outnumbered those who would show up on launch days of new MMOs. WoW expansions could see the population swing up by as much as a couple hundred thousand players...

[ispano]

Rocky launches aside, this could have been alleviated a bit had phase 4 not been for 3 days. Hardly a test.

Not likely. It's much more difficult to get this many people to try logging on at once during a beta, even an open one. There are far more people trying to play now than there were in phase 4.

[Hix]

Making phase 4 longer wouldn't have alliviated anything. These problems are occuring because the load on the servers was much greater than in the beta (from all the people who bought the game who didn't play during the beta. Many of the random people preordering from gamestop or other places may not have even known about it)

And as we know, there were no congestion related bugs in beta 4 preventing logins

[M4Fade]

This isn't World of Warcraft.
It's not 2004.
This isn't Squares first MMO.
This isn't Square's first time running this MMO.

Proclaiming you were there when <GameName> launched with bugs in no way excuses the consistent, dramatic issues occurring with the game people are actually trying to play right now.

You're doing yourself, and the game, a disservice by vehemently excusing and apologizing for a company that is letting it's customers swing in the wind without clear feedback or a coherent line of communication to the.

FFXIV re-launched, in part, because of the abysmal impression it's initial launch left with the gaming press, and gamers in general. It was a second chance at a first impression. Even if you can personally tolerate the issues, it's still incredibly problematic that this is going to be the first experience with XIV for many, or for console gamers, an MMO in general.

This, this, and this. ^

I am going to re-post what I threw up in another thread:
Yes, yes.. most big name MMO's have had plenty of launch issues. Us MMO-folk all know that by now.

There's one thing that bothers me though guys: SE has had MULTIPLE MMO launches before. FFXI, FFXIV 1.0, and now FFXIV ARR. Am I missing some? Dunno, but they should of known from past experiences how this was going to turn out. They HAVE the experience. They should of been a little more prepared, yeah? Makes sense. At least to me.

Maybe I am wrong here... Hmm.

[Nero]

I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago....

Ok, so because it was smooth for you and because you didnt experience the Problems Rift had, those Problems did not exist and made it the "best" launch?.. Ok, here we go... I did experience 1 Login Problem today and 1 yesterday between 2 Maintances, did not get kicked once and doing quests, instances etc etc without a problem. So according to your logic; this must be the best launch of a MMO then?

fair enough.

[Kuzak]

Can't wait for Siege of Orgrimmar!

[Aviva]

I played rift for quite some time from Beta well through release and it was nowhere near as bad as this. It was worst for the EU customers just because trion had shitty EU support but it was still a lot smoother than this. I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago.....

Right so it was good because only the EU had problems.
So, in a few years when the JPs say the same thing about this launch it'l be the best launch ever.

[Kuzak]

This, this, and this. ^

I am going to re-post what I threw up in another thread:
Yes, yes.. most big name MMO's have had plenty of launch issues. Us MMO-folk all know that by now.

There's one thing that bothers me though guys: SE has had MULTIPLE MMO launches before. FFXI, FFXIV 1.0, and now FFXIV ARR. Am I missing some? Dunno, but they should of known from past experiences how this was going to turn out. They HAVE the experience. They should of been a little more prepared, yeah? Makes sense. At least to me.

Maybe I am wrong here... Hmm.

No, you're absolutely correct. SE is just incompetent.