Thi is nonsense.. This is NOT beta anymore..

[Skylendor]

I'll state it again, since people only ever read the last page of any thread:

We paid for early access. It's not a beta. It is the FINISHED RETAIL PRODUCT. SE is absolutely responsible for how shitty this EA has been. There's no argument about it. That's what they promised, and either they're guilty of false advertising, or their EA (which again, is effectively a three day early FULL LAUNCH) has been absolute shit thus far.

Second, why people are comparing it to other launches is absurd. First of all, you don't strive to be like your competitors in business, you strive to be better, because better product = more sales. The fact that you people are excusing this sad excuse for a launch by saying "they're all shitty" is just sheer insanity. As the consumer, you decide on the quality of the product you buy. If it's bad, don't buy it. Don't just be satisfied because it's "not worse" than any other launch you've experienced.

Also, aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes? If game launches have been this bad for 5, 10, however many years, why are more people not complaining?????????????? These launches continue to be shitty because these companies don't have to put any effort into them. The ignorant, mindless fanboy masses will still stand in lines 500 strong and THROW their money at them. You're not getting anything you don't ask for, so start asking for what you paid for.

For the record, I think this is far and away the most fun MMO I've ever played. I think the controls on the PS3 are very well thought out, very natural and easy. I think the gameplay is engaging and thrilling and wonderful. I think the crafting system is brilliant.

The problem is, those things don't matter when the server is down. The lobby screen isn't so beautiful that I want to look at it for 3 hours. And don't tell me to go do something else. I paid for a service, and I expect that service. To have 2 emergency maintenance in the first 24 hours of launch is laughable.

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Anyone who deluded themselves into thinking a HEADSTART is "release" for an mmo obviously have never been through MMO headstarts before. The headstart is a perk that the dev's throw our way for those of us willing to preorder. It is no more than another beta test that allows the users to carry over character information to the live release. EVERY mmo headstart had downtime and maintenance for numerious bugs. Aion, Rift, SWTOR i could go on and on with all the mmo whose headstarts ended up being mostly downtime. If this is your first mmo headstart then let this be a lesson to you. Its nothing more than another beta test. Expect it next time.

This made me lol. Another poor shlub calling this another beta. Settle for your subpar product.

[worldofneil]

why are more people not complaining??????????????

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I'm having a great time! Sure I can't do instances/dungeons that some of my quests/story need, but I've been levelling other jobs, doing field levequests and just generally having a blast!

Hopefully they'll be fixed by tomorrow, but I can see tons of fun things to do if they're not!

[Skylendor]

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I'm having a great time! Sure I can't do instances/dungeons that some of my quests/story need, but I've been levelling other jobs, doing field levequests and just generally having a blast!

Hopefully they'll be fixed by tomorrow, but I can see tons of fun things to do if they're not!

I can absolutely respect what you've said, but my point is that all of those fun things don't matter when you can't do them because the servers are down for maintenance.

[Schtick]

I'm happy for you mister level 22 Conjurer.

However, those of us that didn't play beta4, and couldn't wake up at 4am...
Hit level 10, and cannot continue. No professions. No levequests. No transportation to select new classes.

Yeh.. not much of a fun release day for me.

[WiseWolfHolo]

To have 2 emergency maintenance in the first 24 hours of launch is laughable.

2 and what was fixed nothing was. They had all this time to plan and could even estimate player numbers because of sales of pre orders, beta applications, follower on twitter and facebook and so on. It comes down to 1 thing, either they wanted to play it cheap and not go full blown for the server because who knows how many will actually still play once the free play expires or they just did not prepare enough because not enough care. Building a game up which has been advertised for way over a year, not learning from 1.0 errors and issues but still thought everything was going to run "according to plan," ultimately has ruined it for a lot of new players. Some players from my 1.0 LS are now not even going to play because they cannot play with their friends who are new to the game because of server restrictions. Call it what you want, but early access is release, some customers cannot cancel their preorders, so essentially it is paid for already, but with everything stated, this release was a total flop.

[Valiant]

2 and what was fixed nothing was. They had all this time to plan and could even estimate player numbers because of sales of pre orders, beta applications, follower on twitter and facebook and so on. It comes down to 1 thing, either they wanted to play it cheap and not go full blown for the server because who knows how many will actually still play once the free play expires or they just did not prepare enough because not enough care. Building a game up which has been advertised for way over a year, not learning from 1.0 errors and issues but still thought everything was going to run "according to plan," ultimately has ruined it for a lot of new players. Some players from my 1.0 LS are now not even going to play because they cannot play with their friends who are new to the game because of server restrictions. Call it what you want, but early access is release, some customers cannot cancel their preorders, so essentially it is paid for already, but with everything stated, this release was a total flop.

i have to agree with you... My LS might even disband because of it... I know a few people already are not gonna play 2.0... guess it'll be fun for alot of 1.0 players to look for new LS's or finding ways to hop servers

[FFVII]

I'll state it again, since people only ever read the last page of any thread:

We paid for early access. It's not a beta. It is the FINISHED RETAIL PRODUCT. SE is absolutely responsible for how shitty this EA has been. There's no argument about it. That's what they promised, and either they're guilty of false advertising, or their EA (which again, is effectively a three day early FULL LAUNCH) has been absolute shit thus far.

Second, why people are comparing it to other launches is absurd. First of all, you don't strive to be like your competitors in business, you strive to be better, because better product = more sales. The fact that you people are excusing this sad excuse for a launch by saying "they're all shitty" is just sheer insanity. As the consumer, you decide on the quality of the product you buy. If it's bad, don't buy it. Don't just be satisfied because it's "not worse" than any other launch you've experienced.

Also, aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes? If game launches have been this bad for 5, 10, however many years, why are more people not complaining?????????????? These launches continue to be shitty because these companies don't have to put any effort into them. The ignorant, mindless fanboy masses will still stand in lines 500 strong and THROW their money at them. You're not getting anything you don't ask for, so start asking for what you paid for.

For the record, I think this is far and away the most fun MMO I've ever played. I think the controls on the PS3 are very well thought out, very natural and easy. I think the gameplay is engaging and thrilling and wonderful. I think the crafting system is brilliant.

The problem is, those things don't matter when the server is down. The lobby screen isn't so beautiful that I want to look at it for 3 hours. And don't tell me to go do something else. I paid for a service, and I expect that service. To have 2 emergency maintenance in the first 24 hours of launch is laughable.

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This made me lol. Another poor shlub calling this another beta. Settle for your subpar product.

thats just sad

[Jinrya-Geki]

Darn, I guess you got me on semantics there... SOOOO...

I paid for a game. That's good. What I have now is about 1/4 of a game. I have the first 20 levels, because I was lucky enough to not have any huge bugs during p4 beta, and then I have secondary content, in alternate classes, leve quests, etc.

Let's make a silly comparison.

I bought a Cheeseburger. I got two buns with a slice of cheese and some condiments.

Yeah, I'm pissed. I'm entitled to what I paid for, and that's THE GAME. The one I cannot play any further because of endless maintenance and game breaking bugs.

Also, my dildo is totally exhausted from the 8 hours of use it's gotten during the now 3 periods of maintenance today. Perhaps I can borrow yours? You don't need it with SE screwing you the way they are.

Oh my god, my sides, they burn.