Devs Want Behest Feedback

[Sasagawa]

Implement a 30min cooldown for joining another Behest, making it so 16 different people (8 + 8) can attempt a run in a span of an hour. Right now you may have the same 8 people participating every 30 mins, effectively shutting many people out of the system.

I agree but the system we have now still offers alot.

My suggestion is go to another behest area right now people refuse to go anywhere but horizon >> nophica wells >> broken water.

Drives me nuts 8 people just stand there like i cant get in, theres like 3 level 20 behests (idealy 15-20 for best sp) horizon, bloodshore, tranquil.

then there is 6 level 30 camps (25-30), Cassie, Cedar, Nophica, Nanawa, Muntuy cellars, Humblehearth,

not at 35+ yet so havent explored the 40 behests.

Today I had my first 8ppl behest, it was sooo disappointing -.-' I read here people saying it's much better then before... to me it seemed the usual spam fest... I'm not one of those that spam normal attacks, I always try to use my whole arsenal of skills, but during behest it's impossible, the mobs are just too easy! I can't even select my skill and they're already dead. Make those f***ing mobs harder, increase their rank, make we suffer when trying to kill them. >.<

Also, about the last boss, it has to be something different, most of the times I don't even notice it popped. I guess it should be the main challenge of behest and it should drop something rewarding, it should be something like the latest NM they implemented. This way, just doing behest, we would be ranking up, dropping unique items and having fun... behest could be such an amazing content, it's a pity they worked so little on them.

I agree, but mainly the reason it is not hard at the minute is because people who are too high for the behest participate. if ur above 25 you should not be at horizon, likewise if ur above 35 you should not be at nophica.

Additionally Ive found that certain lvl 30 behests are harder than others mun tuy is quite hard for 30 levels with some of the mobs being as high as 45-48 in rank.

[Reika]

Not just a second Behest group, because there are camps like Broken water that have 4 or more groups at a time. Behests could be joined by a totally formed party, so the party leader ques up a behest for his/her party that will be instanced, so no lag from other parties will be generated. The big blue circle instances is what I am talking about. they do it for story/class quests, they can do it for behests. that way any number of parties can sign up for behest, then go into their own world to take on he monsters.

Options:

-If a party leader joins a behest, the rest of the party automatically joins the party leaders behest.
-If a party leader invites a solo person who has not joined a behest, and they accept the invite, they are automatically joined into the party leaders behest.
-If a party leader invites a solo person who has joined the behest, their behest is automatically dropped and switched over to the party leaders behest if they accept the invite.
-If a solo person who has joined a behest invites another solo person who has not joined the behest, the invited person is automatically joined into the inviters behest.
-If a solo person who has joined a behest invites another solo person who has joined a behest, the invited persons behest is automatically dropped and rejoined under the inviters behest.
-For Auto-partying, if there is a party that is not yet full joining the behest, and a solo person joins the behest, they will automatically be added to that party.The problem with this is possible rank disparities, which is why it would be better to just manually invite people into your party.

In each of these options, the separate parties will be put into different instances with their own set of monsters.

I also agree that the bosses should be more interesting, and more BOSS like. like a mini-NM, more HP than a normal monster (Like 10x more in the case of behests/levequests).

[Lenneth_Valkyrie]

Implement a 30min cooldown for joining another Behest, making it so 16 different people (8 + 8) can attempt a run in a span of an hour. Right now you may have the same 8 people participating every 30 mins, effectively shutting many people out of the system.

I do not agree.. we'd rather get back behest with 16 people every hour instead..

[Rentahamster]

right now people refuse to go anywhere but horizon >> nophica wells >> broken water.

The reasons for this occurring is due to several factors that, when you think about it, have nothing to do with the behest system specifically. We are going to need to fix certain other things first to alleviate this problem.


No one bothers to go to Gridania and Limsa anymore, so it's natural that people would stick to the leves in the Uldah region more often.

No one bothers to go to those towns and only stay in Uldah because:

The story line naturally converges there.

Important guilds are there.

Most of the good leves are there.

Most people put their retainers in the Uldah marketwards

etc

All this creates a feedback cycle that keeps other people away from grid and limsa.

[Jinko]

Agreed that something needs to be done about everyone centralising in Ul'dah.

I also agree that Rank restrictions should be enforced by the wardens before joining the behest.

As I said previously I think having wardens at the camps 24/7 would be a good idea, but what would make this even better is that each warden provides 2 behest options, for example:-

Black Brush:- Option 1, Rank 0-5, Option 2 Rank 5-10
Dry bone:- Option 1 Rank 10-15, Option 2 Rank 15-20
Horizon:- Option 1 Rank 20-25, Option 2 Rank 25-30
Nophica/Nanawa:- Option 1 Rank 30-35, Option 2 Rank 35-40
Broken Water:- Option 1 Rank 40-45, Option 2 Rank 45-50
Multiple camps in Coerthus and Mor Dhona:- Option 1 Rank 50-55, Option 2 Rank 55-60.

Instead of having the event ever 30 minutes it is now started once 8 people have signed up, when you accept the request you automatically join a party and moved to your own party instance the instance circle moves with the battle warden and would span the whole of the mini-map, each player can only participate once every 30 mins.

It would provide a much needed sense of content.

Edit:- Before commencing the behest a pop window displays explaining that changing class during behest is prohibited and doing so will eject you from the instance.

[Roaran]

Spawn monsters for the entire time limit. When time runs out, spawn boss.

[darkstarpoet1]

Agreed that something needs to be done about everyone centralising in Ul'dah.

I also agree that Rank restrictions should be enforced by the wardens before joining the behest.

As I said previously I think having wardens at the camps 24/7 would be a good idea, but what would make this even better is that each warden provides 2 behest options, for example:-

Black Brush:- Option 1, Rank 0-5, Option 2 Rank 5-10
Dry bone:- Option 1 Rank 10-15, Option 2 Rank 15-20
Horizon:- Option 1 Rank 20-25, Option 2 Rank 25-30
Broken Water:- Option 1 Rank 30-35, Option 2 Rank 35-40
Multiple camps in Coerthus and Mor Dhona:- Option 1 Rank 40-45, Option 2 Rank 45-50.

Instead of having the event ever 30 minutes it is now started once 8 people have signed up, when you accept the request you automatically join a party and moved to your own party instance the instance circle moves with the battle warden and would span the whole of the mini-map, each player can only participate once every 30 mins.

It would provide a much needed sense of content.

Edit:- Before commencing the behest a pop window displays explaining that changing class during behest is prohibited and doing so will eject you from the instance.

why would you cut off the group before they even are allowed to get leves in that next area? if you cannot get r40 leves until you have a class at 33 why would you require r30 people to go there? that's not the most intelligent thing you can do is send someone to an area they have no business in to have to join a behest.

[snowstriker]

The OP gives many valid tweaks, I am in favor.

[zaviermhigo]

First 5 posts or so are all completely valid, until the 30 min cool down.

[Zahak]

Yea I don't like the fact that I for some reason have to go around and kill random bugs and cute sheep with 7 of my friends. Why can't we fight monsters that are actual monsters