Let's keep Character Crossovers from other Square-Enix titles out of FFXIV.

[SkyeWindbinder]

nice of you to point out that im losing my cool about this issue like its the default winning condition of the other side, i admit i am very bitter about it since i have to put up with it since XIII launched and it just wont stop so excuse me for being a bit passionate about the whole thing.

Well, there's "passion", and then there's "unnecessary rage". It's okay to have the former when talking about a game you like, not so much the latter. FFXIII was never on my top favorite Final Fantasy games list. (I even liked FFVIII more, and that's not n my top list either. lol) Nevertheless, it had an excellent story and the gameplay was extremely well done. However, there were certain aspects about the game i didn't like. On the other hand, that's not what this thread is about, nor is it what the OP was making this thread about. Like I said, you took the discussion into a different direction than where it was supposed to go. Nobody on this thread was criticizing Lightning or FFXIII. And even if they were, so freakin' what? LOL At the end of the day...

It's

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Game.

i really wonder why you are trying so hard to have the last word/upper hand here, i obviously wasnt talking about this thread in particular, i was talking about the large scale reception we had for the topic which was less then welcoming, and not because of the fact that it was a crossover but who it will be that crosses over

Actually, I was responding to a point you made about people who had a concern over this issue flip-flopping and saying it's "okay" if a character they liked were put into ARR instead of Lightning. Not 100% sure if I'm correct here, but I think that's what's called a "base-rate fallacy" argument. I pointed out how silly it was to make such an assumption, especially since the character of Lightning herself is far from what the OP was concerned about.

its also funny how i am the one throwing insults around now when you provoked me with a quite unflattering depiction and "future" statements in your very first response without even knowing me, which was quite insulting right from the get go, let alone very far from my opinion on the issue.

Not too much more insulting than assuming with an arrogant air that the OP and others who aren't crazy about the idea of a cross-over are merely voicing their concern over this issue because they don't like Lightning or FFXIII and wanted a different character in her place. Especially since it was extremely and totally wrong, unfounded, and completely different from anything anyone was talking about. You know, like this post:

glad i could make you feel privileged^^
i hope you enjoy being part of the 10% of the compainers that dont want a crossover at all opposed to the 90% that are just butt devestated because its lightning and not cloud or squall.
a blind man could see that,
just because that is not the case for you personally doesnt make it less true.

Pot: "Hey, kettle!"
Kettle: "Yeah?"
Pot: "You're black, you know that, right?"
Kettle: "Um... so are you."
Pot: "LIES!!"

[Yumi_Hibiki]

Not too much more insulting than assuming with an arrogant air that the OP and others who aren't crazy about the idea of a cross-over are merely voicing their concern over this issue because they don't like Lightning or FFXIII and wanted a different character in her place.

the tiny difference is that i didnt accuse op or anyone in paticular with that statement, it was referring to the people that are only angry because its not a character they liked that are very vocal at the moment, i could have worded it better in hindsight.

lets end this silly internet fight and agree that we both could have handled that better, its not really clear which one of us is the "pot" and which the "kettle"

[SkyeWindbinder]

the tiny difference is that i didnt accuse op or anyone in paticular with that statement, it was referring to the people that are only angry because its not a character they liked that are very vocal at the moment, i could have worded it better in hindsight.

Or you could have simply not made such an implication to begin with. Because it wasn't really called for and out of place, whether you were referring to one person or many.

lets end this silly internet fight and agree that we both could have handled that better, its not really clear which one of us is the "pot" and which the "kettle"

Now that much I agree with, because it's gotten somewhat boring anyway, lol. I have a video to make for youtube anyway.

I'd just like to step in and say I like cake. Cake and pie.

Is this relevant? No.

Does that make it less tasty? Not at all!

Carry on with your spirited debate now.

Cake-pie. A hybrid of cake and pie.

Check-mate.