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    Could our constellations or Hydaelean's constellations have something to do with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabi View Post
    Could our constellations or Hydaelean's constellations have something to do with this?
    Possibly. Our choice in deity will obviously affect us somehow. Also, things like fishing and summoner are known to be affected by weather and moon phase and each deity has a moon so there's that... We really need more info on these deities badly.
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    Hey everyone, great news! Gamer Escape is going to be doing an interview with Yoshi-P at E3 and they are going to be drawing all their questions from player requests! I know this sounds shameless but ... please like my post and/or ask your own about the Twelve. If we are lucky, they might actually ask it and we might actually get some definite answers!!!

    http://gamerescape.com/2013/06/06/co...-yoshida-san/#
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    So, I was working on some lore round-ups and I realized something I didn't realize before. Erik refers to Nymeia as the "wife of Rhalgr" even though their relationship is listed as master and attendant... mistake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    So, I was working on some lore round-ups and I realized something I didn't realize before. Erik refers to Nymeia as the "wife of Rhalgr" even though their relationship is listed as master and attendant... mistake?
    Holy mother of mercy! That is a HUGE find! That means Nymeia is the mother of Halone and Byregot! Any chance you could provide a cutscene or dialogue for where that comes from? Thanks Anonymoose, you are clearly the loremaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesseleewelch View Post
    Holy mother of mercy! That is a HUGE find! That means Nymeia is the mother of Halone and Byregot! Any chance you could provide a cutscene or dialogue for where that comes from? Thanks Anonymoose, you are clearly the loremaster.
    It was from an NPC added to the game near the end of Version 1 to clear up some old mysteries and foreshadow some new events. He details how there was a conflict between the religious institutions, the Monks, and the King of Ala Mhigo not long before the fall, where the latter justified his position by claiming it was his divine right, given to him by Nymeia. However, the text reads,

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    To counter their claims of religious righteousness, he simply conjured his own out of thin aether, proclaiming that the throne was his by divine right, given him by the word of Nymeia herself─wife to Rhalgr.
    I'm thinking this is an error... Master/Attendant has never meant a marriage (maybe some activities within said marriage, <badum-tish!>) but still, I'm betting on clerical error, lol.

    We know the Twelve are based on the Twelve Olympians, and that leaves the door open for a lot of things - for all we know, Althyk's children are by his sister a la the Zeus and Hera situation.
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    The German text for the same line describes Rhalgr as Nymeia's spouse, however the French text describes him as her servant. Contradictory, it seems. Anyone got the Japanese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    Anyone got the Japanese?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    そこで彼は、宗教勢力からの王権独立を狙い、「我はラールガーの主人である星神ニメーヤから、王権を付与された」と主張をはじめた。

    Aiming for the throne's independence from religious pressure, he claimed, "I have been given sovereignty by the star goddess Nymeia, the master of Rhalgr."
    This makes a lot more sense, because the Monks, also known as the Fists of Rhalgr would have their claims trumped if the person they are questioning was empowered by their patron's master.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 06-08-2013 at 01:46 PM.
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    That's a very good point Anonymoose... Well, with any luck maybe the good people at Gamer Escape will ask Yoshi-P this question and all can be resolved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    This makes a lot more sense, because the Monks, also known as the Fists of Rhalgr would have their claims trumped if the person they are questioning was empowered by their patron's master.
    Right. Unless Ferne & co come out with something juicy, I'm calling the English & German versions a mistranslation.
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