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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post

    IMO, they should just slap the label on Balmung and be done with it.
    I'd be just fine with this myself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    'AAA Title" is a term i see getting thrown around way too much. Not saying that I disagree in this case in regards to this game, but there is not actually a standard I see among top end MMOs regarding roleplay servers. The presence or lack thereof of RP servers does not make or break "AAA" status.
    No. It's the opposite. Basically every AAA MMO has RP servers, because they have an high enough number of servers to afford different rulesets. And this game definitely has enough servers as well.

    Generally, it's nothing more than a label (though WoW's RP servers have stricter rules about out of character chat and character naming) to begin with, so I don't see what the big deal is. Do RPers need to feel validated or something?
    Having a labeled server is a great way to bring together players with similar mindsets.

    Why is it that you seem to pounce on every tiny little issue and blow it up out of porportion? I'm still searching for a post from you saying "hey, i like this thing they're doing, that's great!" or something to that effect.
    Selective reading. My attitude towards this game is and has always been extremely positive. I've been called a fanboy more times than I can remember. This doesn't mean I won't call SE out on something I don't see as kosher, or that could be done better in my opinion.

    6 out of the dozens and dozens of MMOs out there doesn't paint a complete picture. Out of all the MMOs I've ever touched, only one (WoW) had RP servers. This doesn't mean they didn't have active RP communities- they just didn't need nor demand a special server for it.
    Your MMORPG experience seems to be extremely limited.
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    I personally don't care whether they announce this today or a week before p4, as lots of server population changes could occur in that time. Since P3 is considered demo time for most 1.x players, we will see what their plans are in the next few weeks while we check out the mostly finished game's features, and players can make an unofficial RP server in the meanwhile.
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    Having a labeled server is a great way to bring together players with similar mindsets.
    Or those people with the same mindsets could just agree on their own. As they did in version 1.0.

    No. It's the opposite. Basically every AAA MMO has RP servers, because they have an high enough number of servers to afford different rulesets. And this game definitely has enough servers as well.
    What constitutes "AAA MMO" is opinion. It's not AAA if it's not viewed to be of such quality by people. RP servers have no relevance to game quality. It is LITERALLY just a label. It doesn't modify the rules (for the most part) and doesn't directly affet gameplay. Now, if you qualified your statement to "Western MMOs" the rate is higher. but as a sum total of all MMOs (I don't give a rats ass if you call them AAA or not because having RP servers has nothing to do with what makes an AAA game AAA) RP servers are NOT that common.

    I can list tons of games that are quality, or good in my opinion, that don't have RP servers but i'm sure you'd say "they don't count because to me or to "some authority" th ey aren't "AAA" games.

    I'm NOT AGAINST RP servers. I'm only against the argument that they are part of what makes an AAA game "AAA", especially since RP servers are not a requirement for RolePlaying in a Role Playing Game. I think it's a good thing- but it's a very small thing. You can role play without having a designated server for it. I also don't like the alien culture it creates, where people who RP feel forced into playing on a server because it is labeled as such, when you can really role play anywhere, especially with friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Or those people with the same mindsets could just agree on their own. As they did in version 1.0.
    An large percentage of a game's playerbase doesn't read forums. A label is an easy way to get them to the right place.

    I'm NOT AGAINST RP servers. I'm only against the argument that they are part of what makes an AAA game "AAA", especially since RP servers are not a requirement for RolePlaying in a Role Playing Game.
    Which is entirely irrelevant to this topic, but you're arguing just for the sake of arguing.

    Fact: an officially labeled RP server was promised, so those that got that expectations would like to hear what's up with it. You're just creating radio noise, as usual.
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    Your MMORPG experience seems to be extremely limited.
    No. It's not limited. I've played many MMOs, from the well known to the most obscure. From the western to the eastern and even european.

    An large percentage of a game's playerbase doesn't read forums. A label is an easy way to get them to the right place.
    I agree with the first part of your sentence- everyone assumes that because people on a forum think a certain way, that everyone does. However, word of significant matters travels well beyond the forums. Players designated an RP server in 1.0 and that actually worked.

    Which is entirely irrelevant to this topic, but you're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    It's completely relevant to the topic, you're dismissing for the sake of being dismissive. I'm sick of you throwing around the term "AAA" as if it actually means something when it doesn't. There is no hard and fast definition of what constitutes an "AAA" game. As far as i'm concerned, it can only be gauged via player and media reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No. It's not limited. I've played many MMOs, from the well known to the most obscure.
    Considering that most of the well known have RP servers, and you played only one with RP servers, you seem to be quite limited to the obscure, that can't afford having RP servers because don't have enough servers to begin with.

    It's completely relevant to the topic, you're dismissing for the sake of being dismissive.
    It's not. Your personal opinion of RP servers in general is irrelevant to this topic. This is not "let's discuss the possibility of a RP server", nor "let's discuss what AAA means".

    A RP server has already been explicitly promised by Yoshida, and those that would like to have one are asking what's up with it. That's all there's to it.
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    Since we are only starting on beta 3, so it's understandable that they haven't designated any RP servers yet. They're likely planning on adding those designations for OB or actual release. This thread is one phase too early in my opinion, but it's good to keep SE reminded of their promises in case they forget due to the actual amount of work they are doing. :3
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    Fact: an officially labeled RP server was promised, so those that got that expectations would like to hear what's up with it. You're just creating radio noise, as usual.
    Fact: there is still months before launch and plenty of time for them to announce one.

    People are actling like this is the final list for launch. It's not like it actually requires any work on their part to make a server an "RP server."
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    an officially labeled RP server was promised
    What's the source?
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