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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Would you apply that same 'leave XI beastmen in XI' opinion to Goblins and Sahagin and Qiqirn?
    Technically, it's an "I need convincing this is a good idea" opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'll need convincing that this is a good idea...
    The reason behind this is that Mamool Ja were unique to FFXI. Final Fantasy is known for copying itself, yes, but it's known for taking those familiarities and putting them in a new world with new civilizations. Very few carry over more than aesthetic, general behavior, and a few cultural traits.

    Goblin: Introduced in FFI; Included in 12 whole-numbered installments
    Sahagin: Introduced in FFI; Included in 10 whole-numbered installments

    Qiqirn I thought deserved a pass. They're solid FFXI, but they were just the Goblins of Aht Urhgan; they didn't have much lore, they just hung around the wandering races and were funny. It's hard to violate that identity.

    However, the unique races of the game, Orc, Yagudo, and Quadav, were also given analogous Aht Urhgan counterparts: Mamool, Lamia, and Trolls. These gave the game their enemy culture (even though Trolls were in FFI, they were traditional of folklore versions). Mamool Ja have only one history, and that history is deep. They are the main enemy of Aht Urhgan, they have nation, class structure, etc.

    I'm not saying "Leave FFXI to FFXI," but unless Mamool made it out of XI as a new FF standard (like Tonberries did after FFV) that will start showing up in Final Fantasy XV+ (knock on wood), take it, quote box!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'll need convincing that this is a good idea...
    Based on how many monsters they're adding that don't look different in any way from FFXI and FFXII, I suspect this may be more about easy access to pre-developed ideas with low production time than it may be about ... anything else.

    Who knows, though. Maybe it really was Atomos. Then what could I say? "Guess they're here now! Welcome to Eorzea! Hey, Tomy, get some Anticans while you're back there. Hell, get my Aegis while you're back there."
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