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  1. #41
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    Gaius is Odin. Wait til you see his mech-horse. It's cool.

    Anyway, they look too much alike to not be the same person. He's probably going to be pissed at being discarded by Bahamut and turn on him.

    Also I don't think that the woman represents the planet itself because it is too stylized, with the big horns and feathers. I would think it would be a more motherly looking figure if it was indeed Mother Earth.
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    I tried pairing them as well. While the Louisoix/Thaliak link is obvious (he even kindly carries a staff with Thaliak's symbol on it to help us out), I also didn't get too much farther.

    If Urianger is indeed an Archon (I believe that's mentioned as a rumor in game, no?) then I'd assume he's Rhalgr. He's "often depicted carrying a staff of bronze" which Urianger appears to, and being the reincarnation of destruction might explain that uneasy feeling he gave pretty much everyone around him. Dude was creepy.

    ---

    On the note of scholar, which I know hasn't been mentioned since a page or so back, I am not buying the "scholar is the XIV name for arcanist" link. While using v1 text to support theories works for most things, we already know that ARR arcanists are nothing like the arcanist NPCs we saw in Limsa. I wouldn't be overly surprised if SCH was the second job for ACN (though I'm hoping it isn't), but not that they're one and the same. Even if the ACNs are still scholars that doesn't mean they're Scholars in the same way that everyone who showed up to that final battle was a warrior but only a handful were Warriors.

    I could get over ACN class-specific armor being painted in that circle with all the job AFs just to show it off, if it wasn't for the obvious teasing that the SE staff seems to have started up since. Between Ferne's blog and our resident knee-sock connoisseur showing up to the live letter test stream in a mortar board... how can you guys not think there's a reveal coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    how can you guys not think there's a reveal coming?
    *shuffles through what he just posted on the SCH thread*

    What if that's what they want you to think? I'm still trying not to advocate anything beyond statistics here, but there's no mention of SCH in the JP version of that blog, because the JP didn't start a firestorm about how it's SCH.

    Every single class on the official website seems to have new CSE except arcanist, whose style would be big news considering FFXIV's new direction with jobs that don't seem to have a place in the modern era, such as scholar, which, by the end of FFXI, was basically just "the other white mage" or "that thing you were allowed to come to Dynamis as because you had lots of people and could just support whoever needed more help at the time"

    EDIT: It's been pointed out that these may just be dyed versions of previously available gear and not tuned up new gear, perse. Could not even be related to CSE at all.

    I wouldn't put all your eggs in one basket just yet. Then again, I'm a numbers man. Maybe SE held back a mountain of evidence and successfully pulled off a hidden job. I find that hard to believe only because they didn't go through that much trouble to hide bigger things than this.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    *shuffles through what he just posted on the SCH thread*
    In the interest of not cluttering the art thread further, where is this SCH thread? I saw you mention it before but checked the lore forum and didn't see it. Is... is it outside the lore forum? I don't like to go out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    In the interest of not cluttering the art thread further, where is this SCH thread? I saw you mention it before but checked the lore forum and didn't see it. Is... is it outside the lore forum? I don't like to go out there.
    Yeah... it's in General. I go in on occasion, but the standards of civility, understanding, and explanation are very low compared to in here, where most of the frequent posters would flat out shun anyone that acted that way and defend anyone they tried to harass. Even me, if I ever come off as undeservingly rude, it's an accident and I preemptively apologize.

    If you dare... Scholar... SAY WHUT

    Still, that SCH image is on the new box art and is fair game for this tread if you'd like, lol.
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  6. #46
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    No chance of Louisoix being Althyk? his time and or space spell used his power, his symbol appeared in the spell (the hourglass).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaltus View Post
    No chance of Louisoix being Athyk? his time and or space spell used his power, his symbol appeared in the spell (the hourglass).
    I wouldn't say there's "no chance" of anything. I do think there's a bigger chance that he was an Archon and a scholar and now he's dead, but nothing is ever for certain. My guess is that we didn't have enough power to summon all Twelve and keep them, so he tapped into just Althyk's power.

    Or maybe even Catapult's onto something and he zapped us the hell out of there before giving himself over to becoming Odin. Who knows?

    I loved the LIVE Letter test video where they show Lou and the Dalamud Minion and people are like "HE SURVIVED! IT'S CONFIRMED!" ... or it's a joke about how the Era ended with Lou facing off against Dalamud... and this is that but adorable.
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    What's probability of Louisoix being a summoner instead of a scholar?
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    Speaking of Summoner.. if they can "transmute the primals' essences, thus binding them to their will" ..and if Hydaelyn is our primal... does that mean we might eventually get the ability to summon Hydaelyn? :P

    Joking aside, I am liking the Siren is Hydaelyn theory floating around, however unsubstantiated it may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabi View Post
    What's probability of Louisoix being a summoner instead of a scholar?

    Very low. Urianger summoned a familiar and had the mechanical staff. Louisoix had the same staff as the Ixali conjurers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    Joking aside, I am liking the Siren is Hydaelyn theory floating around, however unsubstantiated it may be.
    It'd be a twist, for sure. It'd have to be something different, we've already used up all of our elements, haven't we? She'd need to be part of a new class or even maybe and "elder." I'd just like to see the face on the Garleans.

    "I'm sick of these primals. Let's drop a moon on them."

    <bigger, worse primal comes out of the moon, drawing another bigger, worse primal from the woods, which makes the planet manifest and then maybe the Allag emperors wake up and bring on Alexander>

    "...SONOFABITCH."

    The Ascians were going to have an easy enough time waltzing back into the story after Darnus alone... THANKS, ALTUS.
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