New Yoshitaka Amano CE Artwork

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also where in the hells did you guys get the idea of it being siren?!

I'm seeing you post around here more and more, I guess you should have a crash course XD

Long ago we were discussing what the hell Ifrit was talking about when he implied we had a primal. The sylph, too, mentioned something to the idea that we had one, but should not summon it. I've let it go for now, but it really does seem to imply that it's not just the Twelve we have access to.

It's possible that, much like like other primals are ancient deities from amongst the aether who latched onto a community, influencing its members and building a sort of cult, that one of these entities has taken an interest in us and, for the most part, we've been ignoring it for the Twelve.

Back then we had a lot less information, and one of the ideas was Siren. Keep in mind, this is before the Siren artwork was released, and it's a house of cards of a theory that was one of many speculations at the time.

Basically: We think we might have a primal; that primal possibly gave us the echo; when you get the echo you hear a harp melody; Siren has a harp; an NPC playing a harp plays the the song that you got when you woke to the echo; and the fact that we have the "The Echo" and are called "Woken" correlates to Siren's two main attacks, Hope Song, which silences you (silence bring cured by Echo drops/herbs and the attack itself sounding like the core idea of Answers in the first place), and Sleep.

Like I said, it's a house of cards - some of it disproven, some of it still possible but unlikely, some it it could easily be an auxiliary to the main story... but it was a pretty big open door for a few pages of GC Midlander, so it got a nod in Ferne's atomic lore bomb reply:

1. The beast tribes have their primals, so what about the 5 races? Do they have their own? Is it Siren? It’s Siren, right? It doesn’t matter if you tell me it’s not Siren, I know it’s Siren. (Please tell me it’s Siren...)

This is a touchy subject. I can tell you that you’ve done a remarkable job of picking up a lot of the subtle hints that were dropped in the 1.0 story (the Ifrit diatribe being an excellent example), but the story was served to you incomplete (in addition to being served over a period of two years), and so you’ve been left to fill in the blanks yourselves. This has lead to a lot of unnecessary confusion, and fixing this for ARR has been one of the main things that Yoshi-P has been preaching to the new quest team. In other words, release more info, with fewer gaps in-between, so that players can better follow the story. So what we’ll see happen in ARR is an influx of quests that try to paint a better picture of what was going on in 1.0. That means, for info regarding this ‘another’ of which Ifrit speaks and the ‘paragons’ who supposedly taught the beast tribes how to summon the primals, you’ll have to wait until ARR begins.

What I have been allowed to say is, the Sanguine Sirens are different from the sirens which are mentioned in the blacksmith/armorer class quests, and both are different from Siren of Final Fantasies past (who has not been mentioned in-game). And then there's the provisional artwork that was recently released...

So wait, does this mean there is no Siren primal? Well, that remains to be seen.

Flash forward, sometimes when an unlikely theory or an unanswered primal question pops up, the knee-jerk reaction is SIREN! just for fun. For instance, in the Developer's Blog entry, NSFW!?

Much like pop-culture references hidden in quest titles and dialogue, or how people keep mistaking the ridiculous (and often hysterical) plural forms of item names for typos, it has become somewhat of a running-gag that embodies how our theories, especially my theories, are often like birdshot... the bulls-eye was probably hit by one of them pellets... maybe...