Seeing problems for old servers at ARR release?

[Tonkra]

Yoshi stated, that we wont be able to change the servers as "old" players at ARR release (which decision i dont really like but well..). so we old players are almost "imprisoned" on these servers.

At release of the version of 1.0. the servers have been very crowded, many games have been sold. After a year the servers have been clustered together (some cluster contain character datas of 2 and some even 3 servers).

so that means that we have a server cluster that contains the amount of 2-3 servers of "dead" and deactivated characters. Anybody having the option to download the new game for free again and checking out what changed at release.

what if 60% of these "deactivated" accounts want to login back with their old characters? (even if the ratings and reviews are going to be good) What if there is no space at all for all players on the old servers? + New players like RL friends who want to join these servers and create a new account? "sorry this server is full, try to log in back on a later time"?
we are unable to transfer to an other server with our chars.

because we are bound and seperated from new players?



thats a really new situation. I cant remember a relaunch of an MMorpg in that kind of way and situation.
i think having in mind that many Final Fantasy 14 DVD's have been sold, and that many people will reactivate their characters on their server, which is a cluster of 3 servers now.. is something that may be a real issue.


one argument more to make char transfer possible for old players.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

your "OLD" Characters, not players. Cannot transfer to new servers, only the old servers. So if you want to play on new server, you can do so by creating new characters instead.

Also old characters can transfer to other old servers at launch.

[Tonkra]

your "OLD" Characters, not players. Cannot transfer to new servers, only the old servers. So if you want to play on new server, you can do so by creating new characters instead.

Also old characters can transfer to other old servers at launch.

but thats the point.. when you want to keep your characters? and the old servers are overcrowded? "please try to log in later" you are imprisoned and cant do anything about it.
yes, you can move to an other over-crowded old server.

i personally dont want to begin from lv 1... like other players who may also have "just" lv 30 characters on their account.


so i dont get your "argument". its a 2 year old game with mostly grown up characters and a server cluster who contains character datas of 3 servers but only having the capacity of one.

if everybody wants to play their old characters when they reactivate their accounts for what is your argument for?

"yeah.. but you can chose a new server when you create a new character..".. aha.

[Obsy]

I dunno, Tonkra. I think you're counting your chickens before they hatch... and you're giving them all distorted, scary chicken faces. (Just like when the redenomination scare was all the rage around here.)

Part of the reason they're not allowing established 1.0 characters to move into the "brand new" servers is to preserve the also "brand new" economies on those servers without having an army of financially-established characters running the market.

[Inaaca]

Once the new servers have had time to establish themselves, 1.0 characters will be allowed to transfer servers.

Like Obsy said, this temporary restriction prevents wealthy 1.0 players from upsetting the economy of the new servers while they're still growing.

[Tonkra]

I dunno, Tonkra. I think you're counting your chickens before they hatch... and you're giving them all distorted, scary chicken faces. (Just like when the redenomination scare was all the rage around here.)

Part of the reason they're not allowing established 1.0 characters to move into the "brand new" servers is to preserve the also "brand new" economies on those servers without having an army of financially-established characters running the market.

and to your seconds point.. well it did not hurt me either in FF11, when i joined the game after two years in the EU launch of FF11. just maybe the total opposite.
i was more like "woah i wanna become a fire man.. no ... a pirate.. ah damn.. i mean a fabulous Dragoon!" when i saw a lv 60+ Dragoon in full artifact armor and his beautiful wyvern.

i think it can be good for mixing up old and new players...for both sides. to each his own.


but well i can easily imagine that there are many players out of there who are afraid of established economies. because they want to be the first one on the rank list (the speed runners)


but speaking of my Final Fantasy 11 experience it was just great to see these established "heroes" it felt like a a lively world, because there already have been those "ancient" heroes

and it was a game with an already increased level 75 cap at that time.. with 2-3 addons already. not just a game which received a revamp with a little additional level content. the gils are going to be already cut down in ARR for old players.

and on the contrast.. who of the low level players is going to buy a lv 10 armor for 50k gil if no one can afford this? these articles would just end as a bad seller.


im not saying that there shouldnt be complete "clean" servers at release. but im saying also that old players should receive also new servers to play on.. especially when the old ones are going to be maybe completely over-crowded.

[Obsy]

and to your seconds point.. well it did not hurt me either in FF11, when i joined the game after two years in the EU launch of FF11. just maybe the total opposite.
i was more like "woah i wanna become a fire man.. no ... a pirate.. ah damn.. i mean a fabulous Dragoon!" when i saw a lv 60+ Dragoon in full artifact armor and his beautiful wyvern.

i think it can be good for mixing up old and new players... to each his own.

This can and will still occur, as new players also have the option to join established servers. The purpose of the brand new servers is to play in a world where everyone and everything is starting from scratch.

but well i can easily imagine that there are many players out of there who are afraid of established economies. because they want to be the first one on the rank list.

I seriously doubt "being the first on the rank list" is the intention here. The point is preventing a fledgling economy from hitting the ground at ludicrously inflated rates to the point of prohibiting trade by allowing it to ramp up gradually on a more "natural" scale.

ETA:

the gils are going to be already cut down in ARR for old players.

It appears that you're still missing the point of redenomination. Gil (no 's' even when plural) is not being literally cut down. There is no loss of money happening. You're being given a dollar bill in exchange for the ten dimes you had previously. We've gone over this before. I don't know how else to explain it.

[Murugan]

What he said was that there would be (some) new servers where old characters could not be transferred, fresh start servers.

They did not say old characters cannot be transferred to new servers at all, do you really think they are going to make the change to regional servers and then lock all 1.0 characters to Japanese servers (or randomly assign old servers to new regions).

My guess is there will be no old servers at all, but we'll see when phase 3 opens and NDA is lifted.

[Tonkra]

They did not say old characters cannot be transferred to new servers at all, do you really think they are going to make the change to regional servers and then lock all 1.0 characters to Japanese servers (or randomly assign old servers to new regions).

well i think it is going to be more like "Ragnarok will be flagged as european server with a location in EU" rather than leaving all old servers in japan.

[Tonkra]

It appears that you're still missing the point of redenomination. Gil (no 's' even when plural) is not being literally cut down. There is no loss of money happening. You're being given a dollar bill in exchange for the ten dimes you had previously. We've gone over this before. I don't know how else to explain it.

none of the new lv 10 players will buy a plate armor for 100k. and the low level player base are mostly new players in ARR. supply/demand price balance.

and as i said. strangely i had no problems at all in FF11. how come? and it was not a relaunch like ARR when i joined FF11 after 2 years, i was maybe 1 new of 100. while in ARR a new player will be 1 of 1000 on a server. who knows.

im sure that at least 40% of the players in ARR are going to be new players if not more. it depends of how successfull ARR is going to be.