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    I really don't think that celebrating what was good with SE, criticizing what was bad, and asking for more good, is "pandering to the rage".

    But hey, to each their own.


    (And yeah, that's a cop out. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    The difference between me and "The problem" is that I simply don't try to speak for everyone. I have quite a bit of experience, but my opinions are mine, and I don't need to hide behind crutches like "the majority" or "the fanbase" to give them solidity. They speak on their own without the need of made up pseudo-statistics to compound them.
    ...and yet I'm not sure where you are going with any of it.

    What I've been saying is that they weren't trying "to speak for everyone."
    I can't take you seriously since you started with this "hive mind" thing. lol

    Also it took a few bland posts later to find out a minuscule amount of the reason for your comment on the video.
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    This is definitely a sensitive issue, but I think it is nice to see how everyone responds to this.
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    OMG THE CUTENESS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohenheim View Post
    This is definitely a sensitive issue, but I think it is nice to see how everyone responds to this.
    The only issue now is that apparently multiple people can't share the same opinion. lol
    Which apparently results in them trying to speak for everyone and not just themselves I guess.


    FOR THE SWARM!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeonerable View Post
    The only issue now is that apparently multiple people can't share the same opinion. lol
    Nope. How dare you have a different opinion Xeon >.<
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    The gall of these so-called journalists, trying to present what they believe to be what people want to hear! THE ABSOLUTE NERVE!

    *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Nope. How dare you have a different opinion Xeon >.<
    Hey Vil how you been I haven't seen you since 1.0 closed. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeonerable View Post
    Hey Vil how you been I haven't seen you since 1.0 closed. :P
    Been pretty good, just here and there, catchin up on schoolwork and stuff >_>b Hoping to have more fun times on Balmung when ARR relaunches <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Been pretty good, just here and there, catchin up on schoolwork and stuff >_>b Hoping to have more fun times on Balmung when ARR relaunches <3
    Yeah I can't wait either, I hope to see most of balmung in ARR too. I have lots of work to do too since its almost the end of the semester. Got a little sidetracked with this thread but it felt like practice analyzing an opinion and giving my own opinion about it. I'm hoping this thread just turns into Denmo's collection of House gifs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Agreement is no proof of validity. Journalism isn't an election (as much as some definitely interpret it as such, and their articles are more pseudo-political and demagogic for the sake of personal popularity than anything else) A lot of people agreed with the maya doomsday theories, and we're still here.

    There's no one way to create editorial content of course. There's the solid way based on facts and balance, and there's the hyperbolic way based on alarmism, fanboyism, negativity bias, fearmongering and false/warped information.

    One of the best examples of the second kind is what you can define "pandering to the rage", to which pretty much both videos linked in this thread belong (the first a bit less, the second a lot more). It's a very easy and cheap tactic that consists in encouraging and agreeing with the most enraged/irrational areas of the reader/viewer base in order to catalyze the negativity and gain quick consensus while fanning the flames of ire and controversy, no matter if the positions expressed have any degree of validity or not.

    The first is legit journalism, the second is tabloid scribbling. If you want to base your perception of the industry on the second you're free and entitled to do so (it's more controversial, and many absolutely love controversy), but that view will be as warped as its source.

    To each their own.
    Well, why don't you try writing or speaking an editorial of your own disproving the guy's claims? I mean, it's one thing to call an editor's words or expressed opinions "cheap tactics", but in reality, that's just an opinion. If something the guy said was blatantly wrong, then try telling everyone what it was, ans give us the sources that disprove the guy? Otherwise, you end up seeming like you're simply raging at someone for no reason other than you don't like what they had to say.
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