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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    For the same reason why every other developer in the world continues churning out sequels of their games. A lot of the work behind them (from character design to actual assets) is already done, so the cost is very low compared to a full fledged production, and while a sequel of the lightning saga may sell less than a full fledged new final fantasy, it's a low cost/low risk/quick turnaround operation that brings easy cash in the coffers.

    That cash can be used to finance more ambitious and high-risk project, like luminous/agni's philosophy for instance, or new full fledged games, of Final Fantasy XIV:ARR (that is most definitely a high cost/risk project).

    Churning out a lot of low cost/risk projects to make the money for the high cost/risk ones is pretty much the only way to survive in the game industry now.
    Oh, I see. So that explains the cell-phone game they just came out with a few months ago. And the multi-handheld remakes of the old ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Oh, I see. So that explains the cell-phone game they just came out with a few months ago. And the multi-handheld remakes of the old ones.
    Yep. Cheap high-margin projects are the lifeblood of the big ones. People on the internet crap on them, but they don't know that they're what helps bringing them the games they actually love.
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    An interesting and in-depth look at the gaming industry trends right now compared to the past. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxXEidtxHk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyriesin View Post
    An interesting and in-depth look at the gaming industry trends right now compared to the past. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxXEidtxHk
    Wow. What a complete waste of 30 minutes of my life.

    30 minutes of comparing apples to oranges to prove a false point, abuse of hyperbole to make things look a lot worse than they are, alarmism, conspiracy theories, radical bias, good games defined "crappy titles" for mysterious reasons, mostly misguided EA-hate, valve-can-do-no-wrong crap, completely misplaced idealization of the "good old times" (when everything was perfect out of the box right? LOL) and absolutely ludicrous predictions sprinkled with factually wrong information and topped by a bit of financial bullshitting.

    And just LOL at the argument about used games. They could have titled the video "I have no clue but I can talk for 30 minutes in a row, yay".

    If anyone wants to actually understand the game industry (and not a bunch of angry fanboy rants piecemailed together in something with only the appearance of semi-coherent discourse), do yourself a favor and don't click on that link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Wow. What a complete waste of 30 minutes of my life.

    30 minutes of comparing apples to oranges to prove a false point, abuse of hyperbole to make things look a lot worse than they are, alarmism, conspiracy theories, radical bias, good games defined "crappy titles" for mysterious reasons, mostly misguided EA-hate, valve-can-do-no-wrong crap, completely misplaced idealization of the "good old times" (when everything was perfect out of the box right? LOL) and absolutely ludicrous predictions sprinkled with factually wrong information and topped by a bit of financial bullshitting.

    And just LOL at the argument about used games. They could have titled the video "I have no clue but I can talk for 30 minutes in a row, yay".

    If anyone wants to actually understand the game industry (and not a bunch of angry fanboy rants piecemailed together in something with only the appearance of semi-coherent discourse), do yourself a favor and don't click on that link.
    The only thing riddled with misguided opinions is your perception of everything around you. I've never witnessed a more combative person on any forums such as you.

    Though, I can agree that some points in the video the author seemed a little misunderstood with the financials, the point he was trying to make was a valid one. The industry is generating a huge disconnect with it's audience. In my view, this is a shared tragedy and something that the author touched up on at the end of the video. The audience has the responsibility to not buy into these crappy models and do the opposite in putting their mouth where their money is. If you're unhappy with the industry, say so by not spending on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    The only thing riddled with misguided opinions is your perception of everything around you. I've never witnessed a more combative person on any forums such as you.
    Said form you, it's pretty hilarious considering that you're the one that said that he had it in the highest authority that the beta wouldn't have started when it started. I may be "combative" (you know, forums are made for discussion), but at least I don't lie to try and stir the pot.

    Yeah. I also have a very good memory.

    Though, I can agree that some points in the video the author seemed a little misunderstood with the financials, the point he was trying to make was a valid one. The industry is generating a huge disconnect with it's audience. In my view, this is a shared tragedy and something that the author touched up on at the end of the video. The audience has the responsibility to not buy into these crappy models and do the opposite in putting their mouth where their money is. If you're unhappy with the industry, say so by not spending on it.
    Another one that thinks he can talk for "the audience".

    You know who can talk for "The audience?"

    No one.
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    (blows whistle)

    Okay, time out! Break it up!

    You stand there...



    And you stand there...



    No talking! 15 minutes!
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    That kid on top dun seem to curr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Said form you, it's pretty hilarious considering that you're the one that said that he had it in the highest authority that the beta wouldn't have started when it started. I may be "combative" (you know, forums are made for discussion), but at least I don't lie to try and stir the pot.

    Yeah. I also have a very good memory.
    That kind of proves your delusion being that what I told all of you was correct information. Are you talking about the debate on the start of beta and the release date? I gave the correct window on both accounts. Hey, guess what? Information leaks. People who work for companies run their mouth. The video you just bashed blindly made a point involving that in the leak of ME3's ending.

    The delivery of your opinions are very combative. It's not exactly a personal attack. If anything it should clue you in to defend your thoughts in a different manner than what you have been doing for a long time now. Masking aggressive passion under the guise of a opinion doesn't exactly add anything to a discussion other than stress and some, I might go far as to say most, probably feel discouraged and give up in the discussion. Which is probably how you feel you win all debates. Once, really, you just wear people down with pseudo-philosophical responses such as the last one regarding the audience.

    Some people know more than you do. If the difference in opinion frustrates you and the discussion goes on for way too long because that person is not smart enough to ignore you, myself included, perhaps it's time to do a little soul searching. I certainly will be. Also, can I point out the hypocrisy in almost all of your posts in this thread? Everything you've deflected within the scope of being a view other than yours ---really what is a view that is in support of yours?--- has been met with the same response. You seem to share the exact same descriptions as a person you're debating with only worse. You've always been the strongest user of hyperbole that I've seen in a long while. Christ man, get a hold of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    That kind of proves your delusion being that what I told all of you was correct information. Are you talking about the debate on the start of beta and the release date? I gave the correct window on both accounts. Hey, guess what? Information leaks. People who work for companies run their mouth.
    Apparently they don't run their mouth with you.

    Allow me to quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    That's what they say. It's not how it's going to be. You can quote me and refer to it when it's delayed. Maybe at the moment of that quote they were planning on that time, but development is never on time. You should know this by now.

    Also, when have I ever done wrong by others by giving bad information? Never. In fact, when ever this happens its based off of information that hasn't reached this forum yet. I don't give out assumptions. So, I'm telling you, expect 3-4 months from alpha shut down. I'm trying to be helpful. Not hurt your hopeful feelings.
    The alpha shut down towards the end of december. The beta started two months later, just a week late compared to the roadmap. So much for your "inside info" uh?

    The video you just bashed blindly made a point involving that in the leak of ME3's ending.
    The video I described makes very few valid points amidst a sea of ignorance that completely drowns them.

    The delivery of your opinions are very combative. It's not exactly a personal attack. If anything it should clue you in to defend your thoughts in a different manner than what you have been doing for a long time now. Masking aggressive passion under the guise of a opinion doesn't exactly add anything to a discussion other than stress and some, I might go far as to say most, probably feel discouraged and give up in the discussion. Which is probably how you feel you win all debates. Once, really, you just wear people down with pseudo-philosophical responses such as the last one regarding the audience.

    Some people know more than you do. If the difference in opinion frustrates you and the discussion goes on for way too long because that people is not smart enough to ignore you, myself included, perhaps it's time to do a little soul searching. I certainly will be. Also, can I point out the hypocrisy in almost all of your posts in this thread? Everything you've deflected within the scope of being a view other than yours ---really what is a view that is in support of yours?--- has been met with the same response. You seem to share the exact same descriptions as a person you're debating with only worse. You've always been the strongest user of hyperbole that I've seen in a long while. Christ man, get a hold of yourself.
    You're basically describing yourself (funny that you call someone "combative", and you came into the thread just to attack that someone on the personal level, without adding absolutely anything to the discussion). You just need to add in the lies. Glad I helped with your soul searching, I guess
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