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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    I don't mind the choices, and to each his own of course, but those that hold Japanese to some high pedestal really need to examine just why they have a weeabo fascination with it.

    (Speaking generally here)

    Why not praise the upcoming French or German voice overs? What's that? You don't speak those languages, so you don't care? Alright, I can accept the indifference.

    So, why then, is Japanese the exception? Because a bunch of you only know it from anime? What makes Japanese voice acting "better" than any other foreign language dub? This is the kind of thing that really confuses me, really.

    Someone may bring up the idea of this being a Japanese game, so they want to experience a more "original" version. Well, the voice overs are being recorded simultaneously, so there is no one "original" source. It's not a matter of translating from Japanese to English French and German: it's a matter of them all originating at the same time.

    I'm not trying to be ERMERGERD ENGLISH DUB PRO, because I do acknowledge there are horrible dubs done. What I'm trying to point out, for many, is that as long as this feeling that Japanese is superior, anything else will pretty much be DoA. In your minds, the English dub sucks mad donkey feces, and therefore you go into listening to it with a negative mindset. And of course, from tha point you're already going to be nitpicking for reasons to validate why Japanese is somehow always better.

    /rant off X.x

    For the record, I thought the 1.0 voice acting was done very well. The only two problems I had were the faux-Brit accents (Crispin Freeman/Thancred, looking at you >_>) and the forced cracky lalafell voices of Papalymo and the miner twins. Mind you, the acting itself was great, just not the cracky falsetto-like tone XD

    Apologies if this is all over the place, typing from phone. x.x
    I think because people are use to the sound of Japanese voice vs French/German or even there own English. When it come to some anime the Japanese just sound better they bring more to the anime but for some shows. Like DBZ,FMA bleach i enjoy the ENG version more.

    Also there no reason to get mad because people dislike the ENG dubs. I myself would play FFXIV with ENG dubs even if the JP version is better. I just think while playing games i want to enjoy the CS and not read and it feel more real. While anime i can care less w/e sound the best is what i be listening too. The only anime i enjoy in JP atm is naruto when it come to bleach i have to say i enjoy the ENG little more

    At the end does not really matter if people think Japanese is superior who cares. Why should that even bug you at all? the ENG dubs going to happen matter what we think so i don't see what the big deal here.
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    To each their own, but I'd prefer to hear the voice overs in my native language. I've never been big into anime anyway, but I couldn't bring myself to listen to it subbed because a noticeable amount of male characters were voiced by females and it just didn't sound right to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    Well, while I think you have a valid point, I'd like to point out one thing myself. The animations are being developed in Japan, likely with the Japanese audio in mind. That means that technically, there is a quantifiably higher quality to the Japanese dubs as opposed to the other languages. That being said, I happen to like the cadance of the Japanese language, but if the English is better, I will listen to them, for simplicity sake.
    I'm not disputing "authenticity" when it comes to anime, because yes, those are produced with a Japanese audience in mind. But FFXIV is not an anime, nor is it just another game that's being "brought over" to the States. It's actually a simultaneous global release, with its specific regions as its target audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
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    As someone incapable of reading subtitles or understanding of Japanese I fail to see why it is always held in such high regard as if it some holy language which must be worshipped by all. I have a friend who speaks the language fluently and has even taught English in Japan and she doesn't even act as if Japanese is the alpha language and even prefers some dubs over subs.

    You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine but quit pretending this other language that most of you cannot even speak is superior. It is no different than French, German, itallian or Spanish, just another way of saying the same damn thing nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon View Post
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    As someone incapable of reading subtitles or understanding of Japanese I fail to see why it is always held in such high regard as if it some holy language which must be worshipped by all. I have a friend who speaks the language fluently and has even taught English in Japan and she doesn't even act as if Japanese is the alpha language and even prefers some dubs over subs.

    You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine but quit pretending this other language that most of you cannot even speak is superior. It is no different than French, German, itallian or Spanish, just another way of saying the same damn thing nothing more.
    Actually, there is a difference. The sound of the languages is very different and have a very different flow, some people are more pleased by the sound of some languages than they are of others. It's still a matter of pure opinion, mind, it's different for everybody, but everyone will have their favorite language to hear. For most is their native language due to familiarity, but if you often listen to other langages (like I do, i'm brazilian but I often watch anime in japanese subbed in english...) you develop favorites.

    I, for one, really like both japanese and german. Actually, the female german voice is.. Oh god, it's like one of the things that make me go creepy.

    You know, what, now I want to hear Y'shtola in german
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Actually, there is a difference. The sound of the languages is very different and have a very different flow, some people are more pleased by the sound of some languages than they are of others. It's still a matter of pure opinion, mind, it's different for everybody, but everyone will have their favorite language to hear. For most is their native language due to familiarity, but if you often listen to other langages (like I do, i'm brazilian but I often watch anime in japanese subbed in english...) you develop favorites.

    I, for one, really like both japanese and german. Actually, the female german voice is.. Oh god, it's like one of the things that make me go creepy.

    You know, what, now I want to hear Y'shtola in german
    I'm actually quite drawn to the French language myself, and if Spanish was an audio option, I'd certainly be switching to that.

    Yda in German though...can't wait to hear that one. @.@ I bet she'll sound hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Actually, there is a difference. The sound of the languages is very different and have a very different flow, some people are more pleased by the sound of some languages than they are of others. It's still a matter of pure opinion, mind, it's different for everybody, but everyone will have their favorite language to hear. For most is their native language due to familiarity, but if you often listen to other langages (like I do, i'm brazilian but I often watch anime in japanese subbed in english...) you develop favorites.

    I, for one, really like both japanese and german. Actually, the female german voice is.. Oh god, it's like one of the things that make me go creepy.

    You know, what, now I want to hear Y'shtola in german
    I am a fan of many different languages but I don't spew venom at my native language or hold others as something more than they really are. I am a sucker for foreign languages and accents and will probly watch all the cutscenes in every language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    Not unless he is the Garlean Emperor.... Oh my god... What if he is the Galean Emperor, it's almost too perfect.
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    Well, there are some instances in which the English voice totally beats the Japanese counterpart. Fr instance, the man who voiced this guy in Crisis Core and the Advent Children movie:



    I didn't think it was possible for me to be even more in love with the fictional man. Then I heard him speak in AC.

    Oh. My. GOD.

    Beats the Japanese voice by a MILE, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Well, there are some instances in which the English voice totally beats the Japanese counterpart. Fr instance, the man who voiced this guy in Crisis Core and the Advent Children movie:



    I didn't think it was possible for me to be even more in love with the fictional man. Then I heard him speak in AC.

    Oh. My. GOD.

    Beats the Japanese voice by a MILE, imo.
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