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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacien View Post
    Y'know, speaking of which? Is all 1.0 dialog not backed up somewhere?

    Cause it'd be awesome if there was like a giant compilation of every dialog like in a tome/wikipedia format. *wink wink*
    I'm not going to claim we have all of it, but we captured a lot (and certainly more than anywhere else)! Check out Category:Plot Details and browse away.

    Also, I believe Anonymoose has additional text stored away for his loremongering, so eventually we should be able to slowly add at least some of what's missing. Although ARR material will likely take priority for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gahoo View Post
    I believe Anonymoose has additional text stored away for his loremongering.
    <Anonymoose panics and begins stuffing loose stacks of papers and folders under moghouse furnture>

    Ye- <clears throat> Yes, that... that is certainly one way to put it...

    There's a ton of work involved, though, so while I can guarantee that a lot of it will be up eventually, it's going to be a while unless I find a way to cut back the most time-consuming part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    unless I find a way to cut back the most time-consuming part...
    What, creating in-depth posts that may or may not be uncovering deep secrets of lore depending on whether various in-game text should be taken as canon, or is instead merely throw-away space-filler..?

    Or were you talking about being distracted by cookies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    What, creating in-depth posts that may or may not be uncovering deep secrets of lore depending on whether various in-game text should be taken as canon, or is instead merely throw-away space-filler..?

    Or were you talking about being distracted by cookies?
    Those are the second and third most time-consuming parts, respectively. :P

    Piecing it all back together is what takes the longest. Comparing saved logs to GamerEscape plot details to user fansites to Japanese Lodestone blogs, etc. to make sure I've got everything. Not everyone talks to every NPC involved, after all.

    Sometimes the hardest part of the entire process is having the text that was said and not knowing who the hells said it. I'm just going to suspend one of my cardinal rules and talk about this topic for a moment. Seeing as SE actively endorsed ZAM for it doing it, it's probably not a big issue, anyway, lol.

    Let's say you wanted to troll the game's DAT files to build a site like ZAM, Mozk Tabetai, or Mooglebox, except for quest dialogue. Unfortunately, as far as we can tell, the mechanism that ties what was said to who said it is a short command from Square Enix's servers... so the site might end up with complete transcripts, but they'd be entirely out of order with no way of telling who said what.

    Therefore, projects like Loremonger are like gluing together a smashed mirror. I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 04-05-2013 at 01:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    no way of telling who said what.
    The reason why Gridania was able to overcome this was because I accidentally pre-prepped. I copy-pasted text from the game's log into a forum post and then utilised it once Moose came along with the loremonger project. I'll be trying to do the same in ARR, but probably with files stored in a dropbox.

    So while Moose takes a trip down memory lane on most of the version 1.x content, my plan is to prep ARR text for him.
    Once we have server structures organised, I'll let people know what servers I plan doing my Loremonger research on - you can then bug me in-game and ask for a dropbox invite if you'd like to contribute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!
    Hit me up through Gahoo's site if you've got anything that requires patience. I get an enormous sense of achievement from completing things that have required patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!
    I love puzzles, and have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium. Hit me up on GamerEscape (same name), I'd love to help.
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