City of Nym [Anonymoose]

[Xeia]

Do you mean the stones with their symbols carved in them? That was Louisoix and Urianger, and they are by no means "permanent".

Ah -- unfortunately I'm very ill-informed in regards to the last few quests of the main story, and didn't realize the marks aren't supposed to be there forever (though they do still seem to be present five years later, I think? Either Nald or Thal's is still present for Thancred to pray at in the new trailer).
Regardless, I'm still under the impression that the places chosen were not random. We see Nald and Thal's markings in the same place as their shrines in the city which they are the guardians of. Similarly, Nophica and Llymlaen have theirs in the cities which they protect. Halone's should be in Ishgard by that logic, but that's an obvious issue since it's not traversable by players, so we settle for having hers in Coerthas. ...So why not have Oschon's in the location of the city he once protected? You don't think his presence would be slightly stronger there?

That doesn't mean Nym can't be somewhere in that area, but the Mark of the Wanderer isn't that great of an indicator.

Fair enough, and that was my mistake for making it sound like it was an indicator in and of itself. Instead, I just meant that it seems to add yet another small amount of credence to a theory that's already been gaining fast ground.

[Yrusama]

Ah -- unfortunately I'm very ill-informed in regards to the last few quests of the main story, and didn't realize the marks aren't supposed to be there forever (though they do still seem to be present five years later, I think? Either Nald or Thal's is still present for Thancred to pray at in the new trailer).
Regardless, I'm still under the impression that the places chosen were not random. We see Nald and Thal's markings in the same place as their shrines in the city which they are the guardians of. Similarly, Nophica and Llymlaen have theirs in the cities which they protect. Halone's should be in Ishgard by that logic, but that's an obvious issue since it's not traversable by players, so we settle for having hers in Coerthas. ...So why not have Oschon's in the location of the city he once protected? You don't think his presence would be slightly stronger there?


Fair enough, and that was my mistake for making it sound like it was an indicator in and of itself. Instead, I just meant that it seems to add yet another small amount of credence to a theory that's already been gaining fast ground.

Well it's really the only good theory, to be honest. Sorry if I sounded sort of dismissive. As far as 1.0 is concerned, Nym could be just off the coast nearest Iron Lake.

However, just looking at the Black Shroud videos in ARR you can tell that the area layout is almost completely different. Iron Lake might still be in the same general spot on Vylbrand, but Vylbrand itself might be so twisted that the camp's proximity to Nym has changed.

I'd be interested to see if those marks are still in the frontier areas somewhere, although you're likely right about the in-town marks (like Nald'Thal). Since apparently neither Ul'dah nor Gridania were hit by Bahamut, it's safe to say those marks haven't been harmed. I mean, unless some deviant decided to deface them. I wonder if the Llymlaen's mark is still in Limsa, or if that part got demolished.

[Fernehalwes]

Excellent job catching all those 1.x references to Nym, guys.

It was really hard for a lot of us on the writing and localization teams towards the end of the Sixth Astral Era, knowing that a lot of the text we were producing was doomed to the aether after Dalamud struck. Seeing that text here again is, for lack of a better word, frickin' awesome. Thanks, everybody!

Now, for the...er...secrets of Nym...
I cannot go into detail yet, but I can tell you that the lost civilization will be making an appearance in ARR.

In the immortal words of Yoshi-P, please look forward to it!

[Yowyow]

Nym Ruins Dungeon in North la Noscea... its plausible. I think i saw some screenie of a possible ruins dungeon in thanalan that has some egyptian style to it, maybe the huge statues are on outside of it? its somewhere in a previous concept art. Might even be Ala Mhigan styled or something. Theres a lil bit of history of an Ala Mhigan Conqueror that relates to thanalan, i dunno could be linked

[Aislin]

I looked for Reinhart's really old translation of the ARR concept art and content .pdf and found something interesting.

This could be Nym, unless it was an early concept and has been scrapped in favor of the coned shaped architecture. (because that newer concept wasn't part of the old .pdf)
So, Nym was a city located at the middle of Iron Lake or Bronze Lake. nvm it says new zone. so a lake somewhere in upper la noscea.

[Aislin]

Also was Nym's name derived from the guardian Nymeia. If that's so why would Oschon be the guardian of Nym and not Nymeia. was he some kind of lady killer deity I'm just sayin'.

[Jacien]

Excellent job catching all those 1.x references to Nym, guys.

It was really hard for a lot of us on the writing and localization teams towards the end of the Sixth Astral Era, knowing that a lot of the text we were producing was doomed to the aether after Dalamud struck. Seeing that text here again is, for lack of a better word, frickin' awesome. Thanks, everybody!

Now, for the...er...secrets of Nym...
I cannot go into detail yet, but I can tell you that the lost civilization will be making an appearance in ARR.

In the immortal words of Yoshi-P, please look forward to it!

Y'know, speaking of which? Is all 1.0 dialog not backed up somewhere?

Cause it'd be awesome if there was like a giant compilation of every dialog like in a tome/wikipedia format. *wink wink*

[gahoo]

Y'know, speaking of which? Is all 1.0 dialog not backed up somewhere?

Cause it'd be awesome if there was like a giant compilation of every dialog like in a tome/wikipedia format. *wink wink*

I'm not going to claim we have all of it, but we captured a lot (and certainly more than anywhere else)! Check out Category:Plot Details and browse away.

Also, I believe Anonymoose has additional text stored away for his loremongering, so eventually we should be able to slowly add at least some of what's missing. Although ARR material will likely take priority for a while.

[Anonymoose]

I believe Anonymoose has additional text stored away for his loremongering.

<Anonymoose panics and begins stuffing loose stacks of papers and folders under moghouse furnture>

Ye- <clears throat> Yes, that... that is certainly one way to put it...

There's a ton of work involved, though, so while I can guarantee that a lot of it will be up eventually, it's going to be a while unless I find a way to cut back the most time-consuming part...

[Mjollnir]

unless I find a way to cut back the most time-consuming part...

What, creating in-depth posts that may or may not be uncovering deep secrets of lore depending on whether various in-game text should be taken as canon, or is instead merely throw-away space-filler..?

Or were you talking about being distracted by cookies?