What is this I don't even...

[ispano]

by the way, chatting with you folks is exhausting. I fear for the future of ARR because any new players will get their heads bit off if they criticize the game (and they will)...

You do realize that most of us have criticized the game as well.

[ClausL]

which game? FFXIV:ARR or FFXIV?

because you said FFXIV:ARR is a different game. It seems like criticizing "ARR"is forbidden here. and I'm saying new players and beta testers WILL criticize it.

[Abriael]

I actually think the write up of her short preview of the game listed quite a few points and I don't see her lying or making "factually false" points anywhere.

"Copying this design from Guild Wars 2".

Factually false. The design hasn't been copied from GW2. It's a well known fact openly explained by the developer.

I love your repeated use of the word "DISRESPECTFUL"... for giving negative feedback to a video game. Come back to reality

What's your idea of reality? She didn't just give "negative feedback", she openly mocked the game and the development team with derogatory terms like "half assed", "pain in the ass" and such, without even counting making a mockery of the game's title and the factually false reporting.

My idea of reality is one where journalists are held by something called professional integrity. And in that article I didn't see much of it.

because you said FFXIV:ARR is a different game. It seems like criticizing "ARR"is forbidden here.

LOL. there's a lot of criticism on ARR going on here. Almost everyone has his pet peeves from what we saw so far.

Criticism is fine, but this thread isn't about that.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Yeah, my response video to this person's "article" is already rendering. I see at least one person who rushed here to try to defend what that woman wrote. (Ben? Is that you?) But rather than argue about it, I'm just going to give my own thoughts on why it was really not well written at all. It will be almost an hour long, btw. Yeah, there are that many things I found wrong with it. lol

[ispano]

which game? FFXIV:ARR or FFXIV?

because you said FFXIV:ARR is a different game. It seems like criticizing "ARR"is forbidden here. and I'm saying new players and beta testers WILL criticize it.

No, you just choose to see it that way. Abriel isn't attacking the criticizing at all. He's attacking how she's presenting false information, and using terminology that outright disrespects the devs. And if you think this environment is against criticism, I suggest you read the comments on that article as well.

[ClausL]

she seems to think so. the FATE system is just like GW2's, not Warhammer's.

when I'm talking about reality, I'm saying... you don't really have to be respectful towards a product, as a customer. in my opinion, anyway. games are pretty fair game for being mocked and ridiculed. Even a final fantasy game!

[FireBud]

"Even the inventory system is just plain inconvenient to use. Like most MMORPGs, FFXIV has plenty of “keel seex snow moose” style quests. However, whereas in most modern games those snow moose pelts would be extracted from your inventory automatically or with a double-click, I had to drag them into a screen and then hit a button to hand them over. Why? Why are there three steps when none would suffice?"

Have to say lots of people have complained about that and it is going to be addressed.

Other then that the first half is just dribble for a gaming article, it's like someone comparing their favorite horse to another horse they wish to be their favorite horse.

[ispano]

she seems to think so. the FATE system is just like GW2's, not Warhammer's.

when I'm talking about reality, I'm saying... you don't really have to be respectful towards a product, as a customer. in my opinion, anyway. games are pretty fair game for being mocked and ridiculed. Even a final fantasy game!

For a customer? Maybe you don't, but this is professional media here. Also "thinking" something is one way, when it's stated to be otherwise is delusional.

[Abriael]

she seems to think so.

No she doesn't just "seem to think so", she states it as a fact. And it's factually false.

You can think that the sky is green with yellow polka dots, but if you write it, you're writing a falsehood.

the FATE system is just like GW2's, not Warhammer's.

No. It's not like GW2's. As a matter of fact it's pretty hilarious, because first she says they copied the design, and then she complains that it doesn't work exactly the same (as it doesn't rewards her when she soloed it with an overleveled character).

The system is more similar to Warhammer's than to GW2's, and the developer himself went out of his way to tell that it's inspired from Warhammer Online. It's an iron clad case.

when I'm talking about reality, I'm saying... you don't really have to be respectful towards a product, as a customer. in my opinion, anyway. games are pretty fair game for being mocked and ridiculed. Even a final fantasy game!

A "product" is made by people. She isn't mocking, ridiculing and misrepresenting just the product, but the people that work hard behind it.

If you state that a product is "half assed", you're stating that the people behind it are lazy, which is disrespectful, and in this case couldn't be farther from the truth.

Professional integrity involves the ability to criticize and offer negative criticism without being disrespectful. It's a very important part of the journalistic profession, and even more so for critics. If one can't say that something isn't good without going out of his way to be nasty and disrespectful about it, he should look at different career opportunities.

[Pandemonium]

The article is poorly written, under-researched, and badly articulated without even a modicum of professional decorum that one would expect from a 'professional journalist'. The writer portrays herself as a GW2 Fangirl and indeed comes across as very biased.

The writer hides her praise by skirting over positive aspects, and leans heavily on criticisms a few negative areas, some of which I can agree with, yet some of them seem to be very poorly thought out (i.e. "Why high level players don't get reward from low level content?").

However, the biggest problem with this article, is how the FFXIV community has reacted to it, in that the few have ruined it for the many.

Having read the article, and then what remained of the comments below, it is clear that some of our very own FFXIV Fanboys are themselves ‘butthurt’ at this article, and instead of taking high road and pointing out the author’s flawed writing style, and poorly constructed critique; instead they opted for puerile insults aimed at the person herself, and not the article. Shame on you, whomever you are. The author is entitled to her opinion, even though she has expressed it poorly.

Of course, we are all entitled to a rebuttal, but those who have made it personal have just dragged down the rest of the community who are able to see through this article, and are able to leave their own critique of the author’s attempt at reviewing the ARR Preview, in such a manner which leaves her struggling for a response, and would hopefully provide her some food for thought, and even give her (and others who read the comments) a structure to base their next instalment of FFXIV ARR play time on.

Instead, the thread has been locked on the site, and all the remains is the aftermath of a few childish FFXIV fanboys who have behaved poorly, and left the rest of us in a bad light. They may be wrong to judge an entire community based on a few bad eggs, but then it that is all they have to judge us by, who can blame them? And what of others who stop by for a look later on?

So I end on this: To the few, and from the many. Thanks for your efforts, but please don’t do that again.