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    As others have explained, the PS3 version shown is only 75% optimized.

    Furthermore, it is consoles that brought video games into the mainstream.
    How many video games take full advantage of a PC? The numbers are not impressive because there isn't many.

    Consider this.
    As years pass, you have trouble wanting to update hardware due to unoptimized software code. example;
    PS3 GPU- based on Geforce 7900 GTX series. Battlefield 3 runs.
    PC GPU- 7900 GTX. Battlefield 3 fails to run because it's not Direct X-10 compliant card.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 02-24-2013 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Respond like a 12 year old much?
    I just remembered why I don't come here often....
    Unfortunately, showing you that your post is born from ignorance and irrational platform elitism doesn't involve responding like a "12 year old". It just equates to telling you that you're wrong and explaining why.

    Some people evidently take offense at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Unfortunately, showing you that your post is born from ignorance and irrational platform elitism doesn't involve responding like a "12 year old". It just equates to telling you that you're wrong and explaining why.

    Some people evidently take offense at that.
    Ugh... You like seeing yourself talk don't you?
    Since you really seem set on trying to act like cross platform isn't a problem, let me explain why it GENERALLY is..
    Almost always since the dawn of cross platform they have coded the games badly..

    Almost always a game that comes out on the ps3 ends up looking worse on pc, because they decided not to do the high end texture work, high animation count anims, or any of a million other cross platform reasons..

    It'z lazy but it happens.. All the time.
    Acting like it doesn't does not make you somehow more informed..
    honestly you are bordering on being sincerely ignorant, which is far more dangerous than just ignorance..

    Can they scale things appropriately always? YES, absolutely they can..
    Do they? Almost never...
    THAT is the problem.. But you knew that already.. Right?

    Offended? No. Blandly amused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Ugh... You like seeing yourself talk don't you?
    Since you really seem set on trying to act like cross platform isn't a problem, let me explain why it GENERALLY is..
    Almost always since the dawn of cross platform they have coded the games badly..

    Almost always a game that comes out on the ps3 ends up looking worse on pc, because they decided not to do the high end texture work, high animation count anims, or any of a million other cross platform reasons..

    It'z lazy but it happens.. All the time.
    Acting like it doesn't does not make you somehow more informed..
    honestly you are bordering on being sincerely ignorant, which is far more dangerous than just ignorance..

    Can they scale things appropriately always? YES, absolutely they can..
    Do they? Almost never...
    THAT is the problem.. But you knew that already.. Right?

    Offended? No. Blandly amused...
    Yes, that does happen. Usually when the game is developed for the Console first, then ported to the PC. If it's done PC first, on the other hand....

    This also happens, you just don't see it as often because many Game Devs these days do console first and PC is an afterthought. However, given that Yoshi has been honest about pretty much everything so far, I believe him when he says they will build for PC first, then scale down for Console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Ugh... You like seeing yourself talk don't you?
    Since you really seem set on trying to act like cross platform isn't a problem, let me explain why it GENERALLY is..
    "generally" doesn't necessaerily apply to this game. And in this case it doesn't.

    Most of the times when a game is developed as a multiplatform that includes both consoles and PC, one of the consoles is the lead platform.

    Assets and engine are created to fit the lowest common denominator, and very little can be done to upgrade them for the pc version, and quite often nothing is done to keep costs down.

    This is not the case for FFXIV, as PC *is the lead platform* meaning that assets and engine are created directly for the PC and then downgraded ONLY for the console version, leaving the PC version 100% intact and untouched.

    Why not everyone does that? Because it costs more and requires more resources to create better, high quality assets that fully utilize the power of the PC platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I just finished watching the "Tour of Eorzea" video. They should really consider scrapping the PS3 version.

    There was so much screen tearing and the frame rate was plain horrible. "We're bringing in the guys from Sony" doesn't give me much hope.

    If they try to actually sell that for money, it will just piss even more fans off.

    Who else agrees they should give up on the PS3 version? Release ARR for PC and perhaps consider a future PS4 release.
    They shouldn't scrap it.
    Part of why they made it, is to earn the trust back, because SE had promised to make a PS3 version from the start...which they didn't.

    The PS3 version isn't done yet....which is why PS3 beta doesn't start until Phase 3.
    On the game launch, the PS3 version WILL be optimized; and that's months away.
    I don't know how they will do it; might be they need to reduce graphic quality a bit; but they are NOT going to launch the game if it would look like the media vids.

    A PS3 version does not exclude a PS4 release.
    Many people have PS3, not many gonna get PS4 initially. So a PS4 release will be far off anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nokinator View Post
    oh btw my computer is 18 years old and i got a 9000 score so i think the Ps3 will be fine
    cool story bro.
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    They would be ''scrapping'' a big ass potential profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amherst View Post
    Seems like this forum's "I don't want anyone to have X" mentality is getting worse and worse the closer we get to release.
    this sums up the underlying issue pretty well
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    Quote Originally Posted by nokinator View Post
    oh btw my computer is 18 years old and i got a 9000 score so i think the Ps3 will be fine
    Yeh they last a while if you look after them.. mine has had 5 new graphics cards, 6 new processors, 10 new HDD's, 3 new case's, 4 new mobo's, upgraded ram and 3 new power supplies... still goin strong!!

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    From what i saw it looked about what i would expect from the PS3,

    Console players dont expect ultra high quality graphics, or at least what i consider high quality graphics. Relative to other console games i thought it was about right.

    I have a friend and sometimes he ####'# his pants over some graphics on console, me being a PC gamer- i look and think it looks crappy.

    From what i saw, a few tweaks to get a stable frame rate (which will probably be 30fps) and turn the ps3 equivelant of v-sync on to sort out the screen tearing, it would be about there.
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