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    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    Good job Final Fantasy community. Way to not look like a bunch of rabid fan boys. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Good job Final Fantasy community. Way to not look like a bunch of rabid fan boys. :/
    Fans of final fantasy on the final fantasy forums :O !?! *GASP*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Good job Final Fantasy community. Way to not look like a bunch of rabid fan boys. :/
    You mean for calling an hyperbolic and flamebaitish article for what it is?

    You do know that websites have comment forms to encourage comments isn't it? Ideally to encourage criticism as well. If they don't like it, then they can close the tap and lock comments.

    Those that dish criticism should be able to take it as well, and they obviously aren't taking it very well. It's a learning experience mind you, and it does a writer good once in a while to be on the receiving end. Of course it remains to be seen if they will indeed learn anything out of the experience, but that's not for me to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Those that dish criticism should be able to take it as well, and they obviously aren't taking it very well.
    Yet what Denmo says it correct and correlates to what you stated here. Obviously, some people can't handle it as proven by this topic. She raises good points that plagues every new MMO and no one who has played more than 1 MMO can deny that.

    This topic shows obvious bias if her article is "obviously bias and negative". I mean, just read the topic, are people offering criticism, or are they just tearing it apart telling them "NO YOU'RE WRONG FOR MAKING THIS ARTICLE GET IT OFF THE NET SCREW YOU DON'T DISS MY FFXIV ARR!"?

    Seriously, if this "tearing apart and foaming at the mouth someone didn't praise ARR" is supposed to be a learning experience for her, she'll learn alright...that this community can't take criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yet what Denmo says it correct and correlates to what you stated here. Obviously, some people can't handle it as proven by this topic. She raises good points that plagues every new MMO and no one who has played more than 1 MMO can deny that.
    No, she writes a preview based on only a handful of negative and very minor nags on elements that are normally iterated a million times before a release.

    That's not what a preview is. Previews are supposed to set the general picture, instead of hammer on the minor negatives while leaving the general picture almost completely out.

    On top of it she comes out as objectively incompetent on several points and she uses a rather large load of terminology and expressions that belong to forum flames and not to a balanced and professional article. Let's not even get into the open (and unjustified) mockery of the game's title, that is the worst of the worst of forum-based flamebait.

    The tone of the article is openly unprofessional, and its focus simply doesn't pertain to what the article is. As such criticism of the article is entirely justified. As an editor, if someone came to me with a preview like that for ANY game, I'd kick him back to the drawing board immediately with a severe reprimand and a lecture on professionality. If you can't make a point, even if negative, without hyperbole and mockery you don't belong writing professionally.

    This topic shows obvious bias if her article is "obviously bias and negative". I mean, just read the topic, are people offering criticism, or are they just tearing it apart telling them "NO YOU'RE WRONG FOR MAKING THIS ARTICLE GET IT OFF THE NET SCREW YOU DON'T DISS MY FFXIV ARR!"?

    Seriously, if this "tearing apart and foaming at the mouth someone didn't praise ARR" is supposed to be a learning experience for her, she'll learn alright...that this community can't take criticism.
    Nope, the learning experience would be on how you actually write a preview and on how you express your points in a balanced way without falling into forum-like flamebait and into basing your expression of a game on another that has very little in common with it.

    Also, for a critic it's a very useful learning experience to be on the receiving end of harsh criticism for once, as it gives you perspective and a good lesson on the value of balance and avoiding hyperbole and sensationalism.

    But yeah, an unprofessional writer unable to take criticism in stride and learn from it would only take the "this community can't take criticism!" message. In this case she'd be beyond help.

    But of course with your usual biased negativity, there was no doubt you'd be all over this "article" and defending it.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 02-24-2013 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yet what Denmo says it correct and correlates to what you stated here. Obviously, some people can't handle it as proven by this topic. She raises good points that plagues every new MMO and no one who has played more than 1 MMO can deny that.

    This topic shows obvious bias if her article is "obviously bias and negative". I mean, just read the topic, are people offering criticism, or are they just tearing it apart telling them "NO YOU'RE WRONG FOR MAKING THIS ARTICLE GET IT OFF THE NET SCREW YOU DON'T DISS MY FFXIV ARR!"?

    Seriously, if this "tearing apart and foaming at the mouth someone didn't praise ARR" is supposed to be a learning experience for her, she'll learn alright...that this community can't take criticism.
    Most cant take criticism well, Im sure even you. But if you give a game to a 5 year old who isnt very good at games then take his opinion seriously its your own fault. The writer looks like they can hardly follow a straight line. You join low lvl content as a high lvl and complain about a lack of reward? You have no idea where to go when the quest markers are basically holding your hand? Lets get someone who can function in game before we have them write reviews.

    Reviewers are just glorified hecklers, players who want more attention then they deserve and most reviews I read are completely biased because said reviewer IS NOT the target audience. Lets get some call of duty fanboys in here to review the latest MMOs shall we? then get mad at what they think.
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