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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endless View Post
    I'm a habitual ninja inviter... If you party with me and I like you odds are you will be ninja invited. For what? It depends on what you might need done, or what I think would be fun, or because I get lonely... No one escapes the ninja invite... No one is above ninja invitation... The ninja will strike... the question is who will fall victim to the invite!
    I hate ninja inviters. I get invited to a random group and I'm like "uhh...can I help you??". "we are gonna do xyz". "uhh...ok...GL with that." *leaves party*

    If people ask me for help then invite me I'm fine with helping, but I hate the ninja invite. It just feels weird lol
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Everyone has had some bad experiences in these games, we all get invited to parties that have had elitists in them before. Getting butt hurt over it and asking the developers to make the game more solo is NOT the right way to handle it. Find a good LS/group of friends to do things with that you can trust and get along with. These are the basics of socializing. MMO's are not the place for anti-social people IMO.
    No one is asking devs to make MMOs more solo oriented, but asking devs to put in stuff that you can also solo besides the group stuff is really nothing to get upset about. If anything it would bring more people to the game who then would get to know more people to do more stuff with.

    Having stuff to do for everyone, group or solo is much better than only forcing people to do things that require a group. Say you log in one morning and few people are online, should you turn it off and return later just because there's nothing to do besides crafting? Or would you rather go do some quests that you can do alone until more people get online? Does that make you an anti-social person?

    Having solo content in a MMO does not mean it will become a single player game. This topic have been talked about a lot on these forums.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Everyone has had some bad experiences in these games, we all get invited to parties that have had elitists in them before. Getting butt hurt over it and asking the developers to make the game more solo is NOT the right way to handle it. Find a good LS/group of friends to do things with that you can trust and get along with. These are the basics of socializing. MMO's are not the place for anti-social people IMO.
    Too bad. I'm gonna keep playing. :P
    Me being anti-social means you wont have to see me or any other of those icky anti-social soloers!
    Also I'm not anti-social in MMOs(purely) because of elitists. I am because I get *HARASSED*.

    Can people stop trying to turn games into "HARDCORE ONLYZ" or "PARTY ONLY" type deals? SE is including both solo and party because both are welcome.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    Easier said than done. I'm a very social person yet I seem to have terrible luck getting into a stable linkshell (one that doesnt disband and is active) or a linkshell that is interested in helping up its lower level members, mentors so to speak. i really hope to get involved much earlier in the lifespan of this game than other MMO's but usualy by the time i come to the party everyone already has their cliques. Just like real life, MMO's get into their comfort zone of people then arent always willing to seek out new people. I know i love to help out random strangers if I am able to help because i remember what it was like to be in their shoes.

    Hmmm, humble pie must be an acquired taste...
    Bring back the mentor scheme that was present in FFXI, that was great, veteran players helping new players with anything from gear advice to running dungeons
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdorraEloom View Post
    Not sure what the duty finder has to do with my point, but I'm simply saying that ARR will have something for players who like to group or like to play solo. And yest you can cater to both styles of play, most mmo's have solo content and group based content these days.
    This has been said by the devs and community a thousand times, but people want to beat the dead horse that is Solo vs party play. There is no gray area even when it comes straight from the developers mouth that there is plenty of black, white, and gray for everyone..
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    No one is asking devs to make MMOs more solo oriented, but asking devs to put in stuff that you can also solo besides the group stuff is really nothing to get upset about. If anything it would bring more people to the game who then would get to know more people to do more stuff with.

    Having stuff to do for everyone, group or solo is much better than only forcing people to do things that require a group. Say you log in one morning and few people are online, should you turn it off and return later just because there's nothing to do besides crafting? Or would you rather go do some quests that you can do alone until more people get online? Does that make you an anti-social person?

    Having solo content in a MMO does not mean it will become a single player game. This topic have been talked about a lot on these forums.
    Having solo content is fine. Sometimes I want to just be left alone and play the game. Its when they make it TOO solo that it becomes a problem, which is what some people want (weather they are admitting it or not).
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Having solo content is fine. Sometimes I want to just be left alone and play the game. Its when they make it TOO solo that it becomes a problem, which is what some people want (weather they are admitting it or not).
    Define TOO solo?
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  8. #158
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    One time in FFXI I ninja invited a full alliance to get RR in abby for someone I did papers with that didn't have it... 3 hrs later we got MM RR and all the main bosses. It was my greatest ninja invite of FFXI history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyFails View Post
    Different isn't always bad, and I'm learning to appreciate what the game brings to the table, as well as the promises of tomorrow nights dinner (2.0). All in all it's bad to hate a rock for not being a tree, or something like that. What's the point of this? there isn't one, just one guy's view of an artificial world.

  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdorraEloom View Post
    Not sure what the duty finder has to do with my point, but I'm simply saying that ARR will have something for players who like to group or like to play solo. And yest you can cater to both styles of play, most mmo's have solo content and group based content these days.
    *edited for wrong quote*

    I think you are taking this discussion too literally. Or seeing it as Black and White. There should always be solo content, but it shouldnt be the main factor of the game. The game should promote party play, but also include solo play. What some people are wanting (weather they have said it in this thread of not, they do want it) is the ability to solo almost anything and everything. Which should definetly not be allowed.

    IMO the main story line should be mostly solo play. But also have the option of party play on the same content.

    For Example: FFXI Devin Might. You could do the quest as just a simple group of 6 to get the mission done. Or you could take it to the extreme with a full alliance and great rewards. Challenging for those of us that want the challenge, easy for those that just want to do it for fun/completion.
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    Last edited by LicontAshontear; 02-19-2013 at 08:52 AM.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    I hate ninja inviters. I get invited to a random group and I'm like "uhh...can I help you??". "we are gonna do xyz". "uhh...ok...GL with that." *leaves party*

    If people ask me for help then invite me I'm fine with helping, but I hate the ninja invite. It just feels weird lol
    I don't ever ninja invite for help, I usually ninja invite to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyFails View Post
    Different isn't always bad, and I'm learning to appreciate what the game brings to the table, as well as the promises of tomorrow nights dinner (2.0). All in all it's bad to hate a rock for not being a tree, or something like that. What's the point of this? there isn't one, just one guy's view of an artificial world.

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