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  1. #141
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    The option to play solo should be there even in a MMO but from what I read here the problem isn't that this person wants to play solo because he or she don't like to party. It seems more to be a problem with this person ending up with people who care only about their progress and anyone "beneath" them is not worth their time. I don't know about you but I would also rather solo than play with people like that.
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    ^Then why are you here?

    I noticed the thread while looking for any new info about ARR, just chillin, watching TV, why not discuss things?
    I.. I don't know..
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    The option to play solo should be there even in a MMO but from what I read here the problem isn't that this person wants to play solo because he or she don't like to party. It seems more to be a problem with this person ending up with people who care only about their progress and anyone "beneath" them is not worth their time. I don't know about you but I would also rather solo than play with people like that.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    The option to play solo should be there even in a MMO but from what I read here the problem isn't that this person wants to play solo because he or she don't like to party. It seems more to be a problem with this person ending up with people who care only about their progress and anyone "beneath" them is not worth their time. I don't know about you but I would also rather solo than play with people like that.
    Everyone has had some bad experiences in these games, we all get invited to parties that have had elitists in them before. Getting butt hurt over it and asking the developers to make the game more solo is NOT the right way to handle it. Find a good LS/group of friends to do things with that you can trust and get along with. These are the basics of socializing. MMO's are not the place for anti-social people IMO.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    Sorry for misreading you as thinking you were elite. Upon re-reading you are just an unfriendly person who chastises people for not keeping up with him. Then berates those people for seeking to play in a party after you have already done it as being not worth your time. I guess that's not the same as being an elitist. My apologies.
    You are a person who wants nothing to do with me, then shouts asking for help, so when it involves what you need im supposed to jump. If you want to solo only, then do that.

    I am a very blunt person when im pissed, I could care less if people move slower than me, ive joined random groups before full of people that just needed help, but those people I help are social, ive seen them asking for help before, I recognize their LS name, anything. I have always had problems with "patch hoppers" who only care about the storyline expecting help, the second your done helping them they log out and wait for the next patch. I help them, they dont help anyone back, thats you.

    Your the friend who only calls to ask for money.
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  6. #146
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    nvm. I read what she said. Continue.
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  7. #147
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    I'm a habitual ninja inviter... If you party with me and I like you odds are you will be ninja invited. For what? It depends on what you might need done, or what I think would be fun, or because I get lonely... No one escapes the ninja invite... No one is above ninja invitation... The ninja will strike... the question is who will fall victim to the invite!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyFails View Post
    Different isn't always bad, and I'm learning to appreciate what the game brings to the table, as well as the promises of tomorrow nights dinner (2.0). All in all it's bad to hate a rock for not being a tree, or something like that. What's the point of this? there isn't one, just one guy's view of an artificial world.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    If they try to cater to everyone I don't think it will go very well. I read about their "Duty Finder", and while the concept is great, I would wait to see how dungeons/endgame content is going to be to decide if a Group Finder is a good thing or not.

    If dungeons are too difficult then a Group Finder is going to be a hinderance and will probably not be used by most players.

    If dungeons are too easy then the Group Finder will be used constantly and the content will get old fast.

    Finding the right balance is IMO too difficult. Pick a side and stick with it.
    Not sure what the duty finder has to do with my point, but I'm simply saying that ARR will have something for players who like to group or like to play solo. And yest you can cater to both styles of play, most mmo's have solo content and group based content these days.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Everyone has had some bad experiences in these games, we all get invited to parties that have had elitists in them before. Getting butt hurt over it and asking the developers to make the game more solo is NOT the right way to handle it. Find a good LS/group of friends to do things with that you can trust and get along with. These are the basics of socializing. MMO's are not the place for anti-social people IMO.
    Easier said than done. I'm a very social person yet I seem to have terrible luck getting into a stable linkshell (one that doesnt disband and is active) or a linkshell that is interested in helping up its lower level members, mentors so to speak. i really hope to get involved much earlier in the lifespan of this game than other MMO's but usualy by the time i come to the party everyone already has their cliques. Just like real life, MMO's get into their comfort zone of people then arent always willing to seek out new people. I know i love to help out random strangers if I am able to help because i remember what it was like to be in their shoes.

    Hmmm, humble pie must be an acquired taste...
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    The people I do content with, want something to do with me, they are social friends/LS members, the people you are trying to defend are the people saying they want to only solo ever, and complaining that people refuse to help them do things that are not solo. These people cannot get people to help them because they ignore these same people until they need help then throw them under the bus again.

    Its like a friend that only calls you when they want to borrow money... exact same thing... you dump those "friends". Bad people are bad people.
    The thing is it isn't a friend its a stranger, someone thats wanting help to progress with certain content. You turned your back because they aren't in your clique and you dont directly benefit.
    However if it was say someone in your ls who never bothered speaking unless they wanted something then i say your entitled to refuse help because they refuse to take part in the community theyve joined. Please dont tar all solo players with the same brush. People like to play the game in different ways and shouldnt be penalised for doing so. for e.g why force people into a party to level up when they can do it solo should they choose, it doesnt make them a bad player for taking the solo route.
    I came to FFXIV relatively late in the day, and remained linkshellless for a while not because im antisocial but because i was too busy trying to solo stuff to 50, and experience the main storyline. The vast majority of people still playing were all at 50 on multiple jobs busy with Castrum Nova, then Rivenroad. When i started coming across stuff i needed help with id shout and through one of those shouts ended up in a lovely friendly linkshell that i went on to complete all group content with. Had no one answered that shout cos they'd all done the content and refused to go back there i still wouldnt have had a GC chocobo as id be stuck on the level 25 dungeon! Try helping a random one day you might end up with a valuable friend or ls member.
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