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  1. #221
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    lol You guys have more faith than me... Of course, I make my company among skeptics so I guess there's no wondering about that.

    I just can't "be grateful" for what we're getting, what kind of attitude is that? It just means that we're not getting what we really want out of the game.

    I just don't want it to launch like that. I'll shut up on this topic for a while. I think I've said my piece for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    lol You guys have more faith than me... Of course, I make my company among skeptics so I guess there's no wondering about that.

    I just can't "be grateful" for what we're getting, what kind of attitude is that? It just means that we're not getting what we really want out of the game.

    I just don't want it to launch like that. I'll shut up on this topic for a while. I think I've said my piece for now.
    ofc we want all those stuff too But we already know they cant launch with everything they planned; that would take another year probably. So it's a matter of priority.
    It's the case with all MMOs, that there's always coming new content, and it will be the same for ARR. So i'm wondering when will you be satisfied? or will you always be a step ahead, asking for more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    ofc we want all those stuff too But we already know they cant launch with everything they planned; that would take another year probably. So it's a matter of priority.
    It's the case with all MMOs, that there's always coming new content, and it will be the same for ARR. So i'm wondering when will you be satisfied? or will you always be a step ahead, asking for more?
    That's the long definition of the Forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    I think FC would work quite well without housing...like it did in 1.0; i'm not against it though...just saying Don't see how it's *important* to FC or mail.
    This is not a big wonder. After all, there was no FC in 1.0 ^^
    We already know that there is coming nice features for FC for that the FC need a HQ (headquarter, not high quality ^^) to get it.
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    OP is right we need more info! In comparison before guild wars 2 came out I could read detailed Dev blog post explaining the intended mechanics, ethos & direction of the game, they even have manifesto video explaining things and giving a good overview of of the game, now after the initial debacle and backslash during Tanaka's reign SE have made a conscious effort to connect more with the community and present more information and I commend them for that, however i still feel we are not being given enough information which is disappointing and more then slightly worrying.

    One other thing people have to consider is the perspective of the "new player" in regards to this game. As 1.0 player I feel I have a link to more information outlets then new player would and yet a still starved of much of the "meaningful" information I would like to see. As a 1.0 player I can appreciate the screenshots and fun blog post but I feel as though this things are far less impressive to the uninitiated (which SE wants to attract). It is disconcerting to know less about a reboot of a game you played for a couple years then you did about completely new title.

    Having said all that I know Yoshi P is gearing up for the media tour and also preparing a commentary video and with us being so close to the beta it is almost redundant to complain about such things but for the future of this game I think it would benefit SE more if they were far less conservative with the details they give out and generate and greater anticipation (among other things) for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrell View Post
    OP is right we need more info! In comparison before guild wars 2 came out I could read detailed Dev blog post explaining the intended mechanics, ethos & direction of the game, they even have manifesto video explaining things and giving a good overview of of the game, now after the initial debacle and backslash during Tanaka's reign SE have made a conscious effort to connect more with the community and present more information and I commend them for that, however i still feel we are not being given enough information which is disappointing and more then slightly worrying.

    One other thing people have to consider is the perspective of the "new player" in regards to this game. As 1.0 player I feel I have a link to more information outlets then new player would and yet a still starved of much of the "meaningful" information I would like to see. As a 1.0 player I can appreciate the screenshots and fun blog post but I feel as though this things are far less impressive to the uninitiated (which SE wants to attract). It is disconcerting to know less about a reboot of a game you played for a couple years then you did about completely new title.

    Having said all that I know Yoshi P is gearing up for the media tour and also preparing a commentary video and with us being so close to the beta it is almost redundant to complain about such things but for the future of this game I think it would benefit SE more if they were far less conservative with the details they give out and generate and greater anticipation (among other things) for the game.
    I want really to see if the new interviews coming soon, will have a couple of new informations...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Or because Yoshi is off to promotion tour 10th Feb, and will reveal more then?
    Yoshi has had copious amounts of opportunities to reveal information about ARR 's core philosophy. Every time he has used these opportunities to say "a themepark game like World of Warcraft with more FF feel". After a while, I think you kind of have to take him at his word, rather than expect something more than what has been said.

    Before doing anything else, many game developers will present their game-design philosophy (for example, Archeage's video presentations and Guild Wars 2's developers blogs did this) in order to show players what they can expect in a broad sense. I'm not saying Yoshi has not done this, because he has. He has said numerous times that they are taking inspiration from the "standard" MMOs (such as World of Warcraft), and this is because SE believe it's what players expect and want. And then they will be adding "more FF feel" to that for a winning combination, allegedly.

    And because they just want to keep stuff a secret?
    There's no point keeping things like the general game direction a secret, and they haven't kept it a secret. They've always said they are "standardizing" FFXIV and making it a themepark game.

    If they didn't even believe in the project, there wouldn't have been a ARR
    Anyone can believe anything, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be able to realise it or achieve something great. Many people fail because they believed in themselves when they should have doubted.

    They'll obviously update Lodestone etc during Phase 3, when the game isn't under NDA anymore.
    True. I just wonder if they have enough to make a good sales pitch. A FF reskin of a generic MMO may not be that enticing compared to what else is available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    A FF reskin of a generic MMO may not be that enticing compared to what else is available.
    Please enlighten us as to what quality new MMOs are on the market right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Please enlighten us as to what quality new MMOs are on the market right now.
    I think he means like that awesome game that's out right now, what is it, Rift, yeah, that's the one! Or the super-duper phenomenal game TERA. Or better yet, the awesome spectacular WoW-killer that is SWTOR. Yep, FFXIV is gonna have to step up it's game if it wants to beat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I think he means like that awesome game that's out right now, what is it, Rift, yeah, that's the one! Or the super-duper phenomenal game TERA. Or better yet, the awesome spectacular WoW-killer that is SWTOR. Yep, FFXIV is gonna have to step up it's game if it wants to beat them.
    Hark, is that sarcasm I smell?
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