Poor FFXIV

[Kirith]

FFXIII was by no means a crappy game. It was a graphic masterpiece with skilled and capable people working on it. A fantastic game. It just sucked as a final fantasy.
More than Final Fantasy i would have called it "Eccentric Soap Fantasy"...

Also, talking of copies sold is ridiculous. I can't even estimate how many people every year waste their time to go and watch fireworks. Fireworks are generally regarded as something pretty and good to watch. Flashy colors. Deafening explosions.
It's obvious that when you spend a bunch of millions into a single game, it will be pretty, it will be exotic, it will be a spectacle to behold. Millions will buy it just to see the shiny graphics and argue about it with friends. Especially when it has the hype of such a famous game company all around it.

However that's not what i buy(bought) Square games for. Fireworks don't interest me. I want something deep, i want a good writer spilling his mind on the players for 80 hours through metaphors and under the pretense of a videogame with flawed characters. The story must have a meaning, it must carry emotion. The story, not the characters.

Soap Opera: about characters and their feelings. Relies on Empathy: character cries, you feel sad. Catharsis.
Final Fantasy: characters are devices to tell a story, which is itself a device to touch the player both emotionally and intellectually. Relies on stimulation. On actual fantasy.

Many have played Final Fantasy without giving it much thought, but a fan who was touched by the series won't be easily tricked by soap operas with a "Final Fantasy" logo stuck on them.

I didn't feel sorry for Cloud or pitied Squall. Zidane was simply annoying. They weren't charismatic at all. The roles they and the accompanying casts played however always conveyed greater truths and held subjective meanings to the players. I love the characters because i love the roles they represent, not the amount of whining they do. Final Fantasy is about the world it represents and not some overdone sentimental drama. It's about the meaning of going through it.

FFXIII had all the right ingredients, most of which way better than its predecessors, yet it lacked the fundamental emotion you can't bind to a single person or sterotype, it lacked the "final" in final fantasy, that feeling of total immersion, it lacked truth, it lacked meaning beyond that of being a cool show with charismatic characters. It was a cool game, but a bad final fantasy.

My argument is all over the place, but a book could be written about it without making it clear. Those who want to understand will understand.

[Bled]

FFXIII was by no means a crappy game. It was a graphic masterpiece with skilled and capable people working on it. A fantastic game. It just sucked as a final fantasy.
More than Final Fantasy i would have called it "Eccentric Soap Fantasy"...

Also, talking of copies sold is ridiculous. I can't even estimate how many people every year waste their time to go and watch fireworks. Fireworks are generally regarded as something pretty and good to watch. Flashy colors. Deafening explosions.
It's obvious that when you spend a bunch of millions into a single game, it will be pretty, it will be exotic, it will be a spectacle to behold. Millions will buy it just to see the shiny graphics and argue about it with friends. Especially when it has the hype of such a famous game company all around it.

However that's not what i buy(bought) Square games for. Fireworks don't interest me. I want something deep, i want a good writer spilling his mind on the players for 80 hours through metaphors and under the pretense of a videogame with flawed characters. The story must have a meaning, it must carry emotion. The story, not the characters.

Soap Opera: about characters and their feelings. Relies on Empathy: character cries, you feel sad. Catharsis.
Final Fantasy: characters are devices to tell a story, which is itself a device to touch the player both emotionally and intellectually. Relies on stimulation. On actual fantasy.

Many have played Final Fantasy without giving it much thought, but a fan who was touched by the series won't be easily tricked by soap operas with a "Final Fantasy" logo stuck on them.

I didn't feel sorry for Cloud or pitied Squall. Gidan was simply annoying. They weren't charismatic at all. The roles they and the accompanying casts played however always conveyed greater truths and held subjective meanings to the players. I love the characters because i love the roles they represent, not the amount of whining they do. Final Fantasy is about the world it represents and not some overdone sentimental drama. It's about the meaning of going through it.

FFXIII had all the right ingredients, most of which way better than its predecessors, yet it lacked the fundamental emotion you can't bind to a single person or sterotype, it lacked the "final" in final fantasy, that feeling of total immersion, it lacked truth, it lacked meaning beyond that of being a cool show with charismatic characters. It was a cool game, but a bad final fantasy.

My argument is all over the place, but a book could be written about it without making it clear. Those who want to understand will understand.

I felt your post got the point across, and i agree for the most part.