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    Try easing into it like this:

    say "A" as in long sound, as in "pray"

    then say "or"

    then "zee"

    then "ah!" as if you just had a good thought lol.

    With difficult words that don't sound native to you, best thing to do is break them up and ease into them like that. Say them slow, monotone, then ease into saying it faster until you master it. I taught a good many people at my old job how to get down proper Spanish pronunciations this way xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Try easing into it like this:

    say "A" as in long sound, as in "pray"

    then say "or"

    then "zee"

    then "ah!" as if you just had a good thought lol.

    With difficult words that don't sound native to you, best thing to do is break them up and ease into them like that. Say them slow, monotone, then ease into saying it faster until you master it. I taught a good many people at my old job how to get down proper Spanish pronunciations this way xD
    Printing your post out and pinning it on my cubicle, figure after a week of seeing it, itll come natural to say it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Try easing into it like this:

    say "A" as in long sound, as in "pray"

    then say "or"

    then "zee"

    then "ah!" as if you just had a good thought lol.

    With difficult words that don't sound native to you, best thing to do is break them up and ease into them like that. Say them slow, monotone, then ease into saying it faster until you master it. I taught a good many people at my old job how to get down proper Spanish pronunciations this way xD


    Ah - or - zee ah...


    ok so like A Orange Zebra!!!


    Since we were talking about languages before I wanted to add - love the letter based phonetics that we can make so many weird sounds lol


    You where showing Japanese of the English equivalent, Hanbāgā (ハンバーガー)-> Hamburger, getting a close phonetic is pretty much impossible with that kind of Asian base language (Like Chinese). However put in some accent marks in English (or other relating letter bases (we are a big family of languages )) and you can get pretty dang close lol. Of course the Asian languages have their benefits too (like 1-3 compact images per whole meaning (Kanji/Chinese) vs 2++ drifting images per word)

    Its too bad we dont have a larger acceptance of accent marks in English - a lot of borrowed words would be said closer to the original with tiny tweaks, not only sounding more worldly of a language it'd also be more consistent for pronunciation lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Ah - or - zee ah...

    Since we were talking about languages before I wanted to add - love the letter based phonetics that we can make so many weird sounds lol


    You where showing Japanese of the English equivalent, Hanbāgā (ハンバーガー)-> Hamburger, getting a close phonetic is pretty much impossible with that kind of Asian base language (Like Chinese). However put in some accent marks in English (or other relating letter bases (we are a big family of languages )) and you can get pretty dang close lol. Of course the Asian languages have their benefits too (like 1-3 compact images per whole meaning (Kanji/Chinese) vs 2++ drifting images per word)

    Its too bad we dont have a larger acceptance of accent marks in English - a lot of borrowed words would be said closer to the original with tiny tweaks, not only sounding more worldly of a language it'd also be more consistent for pronunciation lol.
    Yeah, accents would go a long way in helping with some pronunciations, like we have in English "read" as in "I will read this book", and then we have past tense "I read that book". Then you say, "I like the color red". The last two sound the same, but a foreigner will be like "wtf?! which one do I write?" I dealt with a lot of this at my old job, and sometimes we just had to chalk it up to memorization lol [ I worked as an ESL/Spanish Tutor/Interpreter at my old university while I was doing my undergrad btw >.> ] It was especially funny to hear them say "shit" of paper, instead of "sheet", since they are trying to engrain their minds not to fall back on "ee" so much XD.

    It's interesting how you mention Hanbāgā (ハンバーガー)... the "n" can change to "m", depending on the consonant that comes after it. In this case, you would actually hear "hambaga" because the b, or a p, will change that sound to "m". It's the same with other, similar words, like パソコン "pa so con" (persocom), you would hear it "pa so com", because it is actually an abbreviation of the words パーソナルコンピュータ "pa-so na ru ko m pyu-ta" (personal computer).

    This rule also exists in Spanish, albeit slightly different. Our "b" and "v" sound nearly identical in spoken language, but when the b follows m, it makes a harder b sound. "Coh-lom-bee-ah" instead of "Coh-lom-vee-ah" (Colombia) if that makes sense lol.

    /nerd ><;;
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