Speculation on how jobs will change

[Altena]

Only reason for monks to do endless combos, is if there's no TP cost for their skills or if their TP regain is faster than others.
Fast hitters...there's no such thing in XIV ^^ except maybe other monks, but it wouldnt make sense to have a counter stance vs your own class...
your evasion stance sounds odd. if it was aimed at countering high-acc mobs, then no other mobs with low-mid acc would ever be able to hit you, so it would counter everything else. and you'd basically never get hit by anything else but high-acc mobs....OP much.
Your ideas turn monk into a Overpowered hybrid of everything ^^ block, high eva, DD, counter, atk spd...really? Maybe monk should be prime tank, and paladin Holy-DD ^^

Yeah sorry in my OP it does sound like I am listing all of those stances.. I am also not talking about a huge evasion boost, but lets face it - evasion really doesn't do a lot (due to dLvl) on anything worth it, so this would more be for trash mobs. I am also not talking about a huge boost, just a boost.

As for varying attack speeds - there are indeed quite a few. MNK just has a seemingly faster attack speed since they are effectively the only dual wield class. Single handed weapons hit a lot faster then 2-handed weapons (look at PLD vs WAR/DRG). MNK just has the feeling of a faster attack speed due to their attack round containing 2 hits not 1.

BLM cant even use any weaponskills, and they are a caster class, so they should cast spells, not whack mobs with wand anyways.
I think what you're talking about is closer to what other jobs do. They should add another job for debuffs, dots etc instead. I think they wanna keep the 16 skills/class, and 5/job; so they cant start adding a bunch of new stuff to each class/job.

I think you misunderstood my comment on weapon skills. Staff/club weapon skills ended in the early 1.x days, and for the better. I would like to see a "magic burst" style system introduced. If you didn't play XI - Magic Bursts were basically forced crit hits if the spell landed after 1-2 melee performed a skill chain (combo) and was tied to the element of the skillchain.

I am not talking about paralyze, slow, bind, gravity etc.. I am talking about Burn, Frost, Shock etc. That is more of a BLM spell tree. Also I would like to see Spike spells (such as Ice Spikes/Shock Spikes).

DRG: well with just GCD, you can jump every 4sec, but the only reason to jump a lot, would be if there was some combo involved with it. Or turn more skills into jumps; but that would be absurd

More skills into jumps? Absurd? Why? Have you played a Final Fantasy game before? Jump is pretty much the one iconic DRG ability. It should be expanded on.

They barely changed anything...only removing CD, and using GCD. Some combos are different too.

Skills / playstyle / battle system seems pretty different to me according to the released videos..

Broken beer bottle...you planning to kill Bahamut with that? ^^
You should already be aware that classes are tied to weapons, so you'd need a new class for your beer bottle; that's a big no no. I'm sure they will add new classes/jobs with new weapons as we go along. there's plenty of unused classes/jobs.
If you look at other FF games, there's something like 100 different classes/jobs, and we have 25ish.

Technically they are not tied. Using THM and CNJ as examples. Both can use 2 handed staves. Both can use 1 handed wands/clubs. The difference is in the description stating which class they belong to. i.e. "Conjurer's Arm" etc..

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On a side note, did you come in here to disagree on everything people post in here? Speculation / wishful thinking is not an expectation. It is used to initiate creativity, and if you are here to deny that of people, or do not wish to input your opinion on the direction the jobs you enjoy are heading, then you are not welcome.

[Radacci]

More skills into jumps? Absurd? Why? Have you played a Final Fantasy game before? Jump is pretty much the one iconic DRG ability. It should be expanded on.

Skills / playstyle / battle system seems pretty different to me according to the released videos..

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On a side note, did you come in here to disagree on everything people post in here? Speculation / wishful thinking is not an expectation. It is used to initiate creativity, and if you are here to deny that of people, or do not wish to input your opinion on the direction the jobs you enjoy are heading, then you are not welcome.

yes, since you're immune to attacks while jumping, you could just jump with multiple skills, to avoid damage. that would be absurd though it matters little anyways, since there's GCD, so you can *only* jump every 4 seconds anyways. But it would be silly if multiple skills you have, would make you immune to damage through the entire animation. And it would look silly if you were just jumping around with multiple skills.

umm, same skills as before, though the effects might be a little different on some. I didn't see any position based bonus' from skill descriptions, but we'll see how it is in beta

no i didn't come to disagree on everything ^^ i just read you comment, and thought some of the stuff didn't make sense...so i pointed out my opinion about it; that's discussion too.
I haven't played beta, so i cant say i know what direction all the classes are taking. I need to play it first, to know that.

But i can say i'd wanna see Lancet skill return some FF XI skills, like wyvern, as well as seeing Jobs having their own passive skills and such, like normal classes do. DRG didn't feel very unique in 1.0; you just had your 5 skills, of which all were quite circumstantial, and hardly used most cause long cooldowns, and them being circumstantial. GCD will fix some of it in ARR, but i still wanna see jobs having their own passives, to give them a more unique direction.
Jobs is just a restricted class with 5 specific skills; DRG is like Lancer, but with less variety; And its a bit sad if the only thing setting DRG aside from Lancer, is jumping. Bard for example has multiple buffs, that benefit entire party; that's pretty big difference from Archer. BLM gets stronger attack skills. But DRG....just get jump.
But then again, like i said; i don't know what direction they are taking the jobs, or how it will play, so can't really make any judgment about it, or what i wanna see change For all i know, they might already changed it all.