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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Your 1.0 server is not going to turn into anything. It's going to stay located in Japan, and it's going to continue being a global/JP server.

    New servers are coming up in other regions of the world that are going to be global/NA or global/EU servers, to which you can't transfer an existing character.

    Hope this helps.
    Please link to the dev post where this was stated. I think it is a misunderstanding of a portion of the playerbase. As I understand it, all that was stated is basically this:

    1. there will be new servers
    2. there will be regional servers
    3. existing characters cannot transfer to new servers

    Points 1 and 2 are not neccessarily related, leaving the possibility that some existing worlds will be moved from Japan to other regions.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I'm just interested in how much people will rethink the importance of "regional servers" when we hit Beta, because I'm fairly certain the Beta servers are all going to still be in Japan.

    Then we will see how much those milleseconds saved seem to matter when we have a decent server to work with in the first place, also sans animation lock.
    Yeah I feel the same way. During Alpha I noticed NO animation lock at all. Speaking to my fellow LS mates about this has caused a bit of trouble deciding if we will move to a NA server at all. If things stay the way they are, personally I would love to stay on a SE JP server because I like having different people to play with from other places in the World. It's one of the reasons I like MMOs; variation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Yeah I feel the same way. During Alpha I noticed NO animation lock at all. Speaking to my fellow LS mates about this has caused a bit of trouble deciding if we will move to a NA server at all. If things stay the way they are, personally I would love to stay on a SE JP server because I like having different people to play with from other places in the World. It's one of the reasons I like MMOs; variation.
    The only thing you be playing with other people would be none instance. Seeing how instance would be language base will you could always lie about that lol. But still beside open Roaming Odin/primal and F.A.T.E and w/e else there is everything else people would just do dungeon finder. So even if you playing during the morning in NA base world dungeon finder would help you always get a party so that wont be a issue.

    My only issue would be how bad the community would be in NA worlds vs JP because there always be NA,EU playing on there. If FFXIV get a lot of player base i think NA world would be full of annoying players from other games and that would suck .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    The only thing you be playing with other people would be none instance. Seeing how instance would be language base will you could always lie about that lol. But still beside open Roaming Odin/primal and F.A.T.E and w/e else there is everything else people would just do dungeon finder. So even if you playing during the morning in NA base world dungeon finder would help you always get a party so that wont be a issue.

    My only issue would be how bad the community would be in NA worlds vs JP because there always be NA,EU playing on there. If FFXIV get a lot of player base i think NA world would be full of annoying players from other games and that would suck .
    Yeah I see what you mean and unfortunately have to agree with most of it. We have folks from all over the globe in our LS including those in Japan. It's one of the "perks" I guess you could say with our Shell. Since we don't discriminate based off of time zone it gives everyone regardless of time or day, 90% of the time to have someone from the shell on. Helps make us a tighter shell. I would love staying up late to help our newer JP players finish Dungeon Runs for items or Quest story lines.
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    Having a varied population doesn't just affect who do you run instances or whatever with. It also affects the times at which the servers are actually active, and also the server's economy.

    Personally, I think it would suck to be in a server that is pretty much dead at certain times of the day.
    I hope people does realize how little those milliseconds actually affect you with a decent server structure (which I can attest to being someone that is literally NEVER close to the servers for whatever online game I play) once we're in the first phases of beta, and that that lessens the chance of a massive exodus happening. I really don't wanna be stuck in a time zone driven server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Yeah I see what you mean and unfortunately have to agree with most of it. We have folks from all over the globe in our LS including those in Japan. It's one of the "perks" I guess you could say with our Shell. Since we don't discriminate based off of time zone it gives everyone regardless of time or day, 90% of the time to have someone from the shell on. Helps make us a tighter shell. I would love staying up late to help our newer JP players finish Dungeon Runs for items or Quest story lines.
    Ya you have to make a hard choose then most if not all JP would go to a JP world same with NA,EU. Some players are willing to lose a good linkshell to be close to the servers to them. I know SE said they be also releasing some GlobalServers but they be base in JP. At this point i not sure what the best idea seeing how the once in NA could go down for hours to fix something vs the JP one being fix right away by SE them-self. I guess we see how bad the lag is in Beta and if not that bad then i bet most people would just stay in a JP world overall i think it would have a better community. Seeing how all the jerks from WoW and other game would see the NA and pick that right away.

    @klefth is also up to what time your active i myself base in EST time zone but i play around 9pm to beyond 5am. Seeing how SE is releasing a Global server even tho it's base in JP. I think that would have a way better community the players world base on NA only like i said on top of my post do to everyone wow player picking the NA worlds. Don't get me wrong not saying wow players are bad just saying a big % of them are jerks and would mess up the community we had in 1.0.

    But i agree with you i'll take 2-3sec lag vs a bad community / not seeing anyone at 9pm-6am my time.
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    lol, it doesn't even need to be as bad as a 2-3 second lag. If done well, latencies even up to 180'ish ms (what I'm usually at when playing) are nearly imperceptible, even on intense PvP games like Street Fighter IV/3rd strike Online, FPSs or MOBAs. People just like to make a huge fuss over this. I can't help but laugh when I see people crying "omg, lag!" every time they die in LoL when I can see at the start of the game that they have <30 ms ping while I play with >150 on average in the NA server.

    Also, if you're based on EST and play at those times, Zenaku, I bet you don't really meet a whole lot of other american players, do you? Usually at those times most people around were Europeans or JP, at least from my experience. Regional servers would, for the most part, be time zone driven, which means at times like early morning or late night, the servers would likely be nothing short of a barren desert compared to peak times since there aren't many people from other time zones to fill in those gaps.
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    @Zenaku same as i play on EST as does the majority of our shell. And while that makes for a meh time frame for me through the week, the weekends are different. But we also have players who have part time jobs or just more time to play so. And I don't mind occasionally have a slow server. Just means I find something else to do that day; maybe craft and just explore. But I get your point completely and I think some people WILL forget to take that into consideration. But I'd rather have a slower server than a bunch of jerks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klefth View Post
    lol, it doesn't even need to be a 2-3 second lag. If done well, latencies even up to 180'ish ms (what I'm usually at when playing) are nearly imperceptible, even on intense PvP games like Street Fighter IV/3rd strike Online, FPSs or MOBAs.

    Also, if you're based on EST and play at those times, I bet you don't really meed a whole lot of other american players, do you? Usually at those times most people around were Europeans or JP, at least from my experience. Regional servers would, for the most part, be time zone driven, which means at times like early morning or late night, the servers would likely be nothing short of a barren desert compared to peak times.
    There not really a lot of American players at that time but my ls does event around 7pm and sometime we go on to 5am in the morning or later. The days that there noting to do i end up making money so i can up with everyone else and do other relic with my shell during that time i only got 3 i was going to do more but i want to save money for 2.0. But ya i agree i think global world would be the best bet to have a nice world and nice people.

    @Geesus seeing how SE said they be global worlds "base in JP servers"i think that be best for players like us who want to play with people from other parts of the world and play with nice people. But overall it up too where my linkshell goes if they pick NA i go NA seeing how there dungeon finder i going to end up dealing with jerks anyways
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    As long as SE keeps my server as is (Located in Japan) and there isn't some sort of mass exodus to other servers I'll stay where I am.

    On the other hand, SE really should dedicate a server to being "Global" regardless of where it's located, I want to play in a breathing world not one that kicks the bucket after "Prime time" because god forbid you either use the auto translate for it's purpose or find out that people outside your timezone actually speak english in large volume!
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