Archanist Question(s)

[Skies]

Sleep is not actually a debuff spell and is more of a crowd control spell. As a debuffer you actually are a battle director, whatever you're hitting with your debuffs is more or less tagged as the next target, Sleep is the total opposite of that, thing's tagged as the last target.

It wouldn't be weird for sleep not to be on the debuffer.

[DardGhalawad]

Indeed.

Also Naoki Yoshida said many times in interviews where Samurai and/or Musketeer was brought up that FFXIV currently has too few Disciple Of Magic classes compared to Disciples Of War and before he adds anymore Disciples of War, he would add another Disciple Of Magic. Adding Arcanist as a starting class is the simplest and most balanced way to help rectify that, and free them up to add things like firearms, katana, and clubs/mace/hammer classes.


Now I suspsect that we'll also see Musketeer added at launch. I can see lore-wise how Limsa Lominsa would go all NRA after the Bahamut attack, and open up the Musketeer Guild for everyone. That way starting off, you'll have these options (remember you can no longer start as a Disciple Of Hand or Land anymore).

Limsa Lominsa:

• Arcanist Guild
• Marauder Guild
• Musketeer Guild

Ul'dah:

• Thaumaturge Guild
• Gladiator Guild
• Pugilist Guild

Gridania:

• Conjurer Guild
• Archer Guild
• Lancer Guild

Holy City Of Ishgard:
Mysticist Guild
Enforcer Guild
Fencer Guild


Every starting city would have it's own Disciple Of Magic guild and 2 Disciple of War guilds. It's not a 1:1 balance, but it is a proportional balance that makes sense ... and would be extendable to new cities.

Holy City Of Ishgard:
Mysticist Guild - RDM class / BLU Job problably
Enforcer Guild - RNG class / COR Job problably
Fencer Guild - THF class / NIN Job problably

This would make more sense to me.

[KaiserDrill]

I see your point, but mine is that (speculation) the arcanist main stat would be pie and magacc. Since sleep is based on magacc it would make sense that arcanist would be able to cast the strongest sleep over whm and blm. They just have the stronger natural talent for it.

Just thought of this. Arcanist could use sleep as a borrowed class skill. If summoner gets thm to pick from, there you go.

[ShadowCadja]

well the *problem* is that THM already has HP/MP steal, and sleep skills, so it would be odd if Arcanist got that also.
Maybe Demi instead of Gravity.
Death certainly wouldn't work, since 4sec GCD
I guess we'll know soon:ish

What spells does THM have that steal hp/mp? o.O

[Skies]

What spells does THM have that steal hp/mp? o.O

Actually it's Necrogenesis which heals you based on spell damage and Parsimony that recovers MP based on the spell cast.
I dare say that Parsimony is not an MP drain because it does not gives you a net gain, it was originally meant to halve the casting cost but they were not able to implement it as such in the 1.0 engine

[Firon]

Actually it's Necrogenesis which heals you based on spell damage and Parsimony that recovers MP based on the spell cast.
I dare say that Parsimony is not an MP drain because it does not gives you a net gain, it was originally meant to halve the casting cost but they were not able to implement it as such in the 1.0 engine

It was half mp cost and mp on hit and both of those are skills not spells.

[Skies]

While they are not nescessarily spells, they are modifiers to the next spell cast.
I'm just stating what was referred to before when someone said that THM had HP/MP drain, however.

[KaiserDrill]

THEY DO NOT STEAL HP/MP FROM MOBS FFS! They simply give you a return based on how much damage is dealt. I am talking about drain and aspir. You know spells that are in almost every ff? holy crap youre either flaming this thread or just incredibly stupid. Go home.

[ispano]

THEY DO NOT STEAL HP/MP FROM MOBS FFS! They simply give you a return based on how much damage is dealt. I am talking about drain and aspir. You know spells that are in almost every ff? holy crap youre either flaming this thread or just incredibly stupid. Go home.

Ever think that maybe they're responding to the other guy, and not you?

[KaiserDrill]

Its not that. Its stupidity.