XIV is Not Being Remade for You/Us

[Shougun]

Precisely. To be honest i'm not a big fan of the "standard" MMO. I'm more used to the old school FFXI, Runescape, Everquest grind stuff. I'm used to it and prefer it. I don't like instant gratification and doing hundreds of quests for exp. I hate doing that in single player as well (Xenoblade side quests for xp was awful). It's one of those things where I need to adapt or move on. That'll be one of the things I need to work on come Beta and release.

Funny though because while WoW certainly is easier then say FFXI when it comes to loot and progress - I'd say FFXIV (post-Tanaka) is and will be easier then WoW lol

Over correction?

[EinSoFZ]

Funny though because while WoW certainly is easier then say FFXI when it comes to loot and progress - I'd say FFXIV (post-Tanaka) is and will be easier then WoW lol

Over correction?

Would the game be playing itself for us then? lol

[Shougun]

Would the game be playing itself for us then? lol

I havent played since Burning Crusade but I assure you its not hello kitty. Yes you can level yourself - but there are plently of opportunities to die. I suppose in groups the solo quests appear easy, but I leveled all the way to max solo (leveling was slower earlier in the release) and if you go do all the quests at their suggested levels you arent 1 shotting things (though I've been 1 shot by wandering NMs).

Also dungeons will be happy to make you run back to your body.

Though like I said I played a while ago I dont know whats changed. But seriously.. its not hello kitty lol.

[Queezy]

your right its worse the hello kitty online.. matta fact even digimon masters online is harder then wow lol

[Shougun]

your right its worse the hello kitty online.. matta fact even digimon masters online is harder then wow lol

I thought Digimon Masters Online was harder then Hello Kitty!?!

*Unsure where to place FFXIV now.. between Hello Kitty and Digimon, or between WoW and Hello Kitty..*

[ispano]

I havent played since Burning Crusade but I assure you its not hello kitty. Yes you can level yourself - but there are plently of opportunities to die. I suppose in groups the solo quests appear easy, but I leveled all the way to max solo (leveling was slower earlier in the release) and if you go do all the quests at their suggested levels you arent 1 shotting things (though I've been 1 shot by wandering NMs).

Also dungeons will be happy to make you run back to your body.

Though like I said I played a while ago I dont know whats changed. But seriously.. its not hello kitty lol.

Burning Crusade was considered one of the "hardest" expansions in WoW. Once LK came, many would say the difficulty took a nose dive.

[Siegtaru]

Burning Crusade was considered one of the "hardest" expansions in WoW. Once LK came, many would say the difficulty took a nose dive.

Also, the sky is blue.

But, on topic with that, I thought that in XI, Chains of Promathia made Zilart look like World 1-1 of Super Mario for the NES. Treasures of Aht Urghan wasn't necessarily "harder", at least not in my opinion, but came packed with so much content and general "shit to do" that it definitely made the game feel like each expansion brought something new and better to the table each time.

Back OFF Topic:
Stop beating that dead horse called WoW, since it's already slowly killing itself. According to their most recent patch notes, instead of trying to figure out a solution to the horrible plague there is on the community and their inability to gather in groups of 10 or greater to complete content, and then loot whores bitching about not getting loot, all the time, always. Blizzard's "Solution" was to ACCOMODATE the abominable state of the game's community, rather than attempt to improve it.

If SE ever did that to us, or anything of the sort, all my respect for them would disappear in an instant.

[EinSoFZ]

I havent played since Burning Crusade but I assure you its not hello kitty. Yes you can level yourself - but there are plently of opportunities to die. I suppose in groups the solo quests appear easy, but I leveled all the way to max solo (leveling was slower earlier in the release) and if you go do all the quests at their suggested levels you arent 1 shot things (though I've been 1 shot by wandering NMs).

Also dungeons will be happy to make you run back to your body.

Though like I said I played a while ago I dont know whats changed. But seriously.. its not hello kitty lol.

I hear ya, but I think if you can even solo to max then that is a clear sign it's really too easy. If you can solo quests on top of that, I think that's just silly. The dish of a challenge is best served up in an instance apparently. That's the only time I saw any form of difficulty in XIV and even then - tank and spank generally guarantees it. Should XIV become easier in ARR I don't know what I'd do.

At least Hello Kitty doesn't put up a pretense of being anything more than fluff.

[Shougun]

Burning Crusade was considered one of the "hardest" expansions in WoW. Once LK came, many would say the difficulty took a nose dive.

Ah, so I got the best of it lol. I remember dying a lot, and having to fight harder, then I've ever had to in FFXIV. WoW gets a lot of crap but having played both FFXI, and WoW for a few years - I never fell asleep at the keyboard * bored* from fighting in WoW like I did frequently even on boss fights in FFXI.

I hear ya, but I think if you can even solo to max then that is a clear sign it's really too easy. If you can solo quests on top of that, I think that's just silly. The dish of a challenge is best served up in an instance apparently. That's the only time I saw any form of difficulty in XIV and even then - tank and spank generally guarantees it. Should XIV become easier in ARR I don't know what I'd do.

At least Hello Kitty doesn't put up a pretense of being anything more than fluff.

WoW's difficulty was never in leveling they usually had dungeons that if you weren't organized you failed in. First time in totorak at the appropriate level with only my friend we almost solo'd the whole dungeon - we got one more and it was easy peezy. I remember blackshroud (first tier wow dungeon) kicking my ass a bunch lol.

I think thats a part of the misconception (imo) of WoW's difficulty is that leveling easy must mean its an easy game in all other matters - though we should note that Ispano is saying that it got much easier since WotL (which I didnt play).




(Not saying im an awesome player)