What Tera taught me about the quest plans for ARR.

[RisaCooper]

I think it really depends on how they do the questing. Some types of questing is fun, while others can be repetitive given large quantity of the same thing. If they come up with multiple quest types, I don't think it would be boring. Plus there will be other ways to level, not just questing, so when you get bored of that, you can always go do something else.

[Firon]

I think it really depends on how they do the questing. Some types of questing is fun, while others can be repetitive given large quantity of the same thing. If they come up with multiple quest types, I don't think it would be boring. Plus there will be other ways to level, not just questing, so when you get bored of that, you can always go do something else.

I agree with this. FFXI had tons of garbage quest trust me i know i did over 500+ quest before i quit and only about 7-10%% of them stood out. When i say stood out they had a good story behind them.

[Babydoll]

I agree with this. FFXI had tons of garbage quest trust me i know i did over 500+ quest before i quit and only about 7-10%% of them stood out. When i say stood out they had a good story behind them.

Yeah good point Firon. Oddly enough though I remember almost every quest in FFXI...because of how much BS went into doing all of them (yes even the garbage ones) lol

Oh...I didn't bother reading the last page but just checked lol

To answer you...

Why can't you just do quest with people? It's like leve questing grab some people do it together.

Whenever I have done those "garbage" quests with people...most of the time they can't stop what they are doing to chat..."TOO BUSY GOTTA HURRY AND FINISH MY QUEST SO I CAN LEVEL TO STAND IN TOWN AND DO NOTHING" but if we are on vent or something we talk. But I am not about to go get on vent with a stranger or say hey wanna do these quests together!? Why would I bother..easier to do it alone no? Unless it is a difficult quest where it requires a PT. Whereas in exp PT it kind of forces people to be at least somewhat social...

Although I can say in TERA...even when doing the garbage quests with people...no one talks..hardly at all. Most of the time its silence..and we just do what needs to be done and they just drop PT >.> Same with how instances go.

Where as when I did PT exp I made life time friends that I have had for 10+ years and still they are some of my closest friends..really weird lol.

By no means am I saying turn the game into FFXI again or bring back only grind PT, just sayin it was fun to do for me. And personally I do not like TERA/Aion/WOW style quests...gets boring quick ; ;

[Elexia]

Lol you are so wrong.

Care to prove me wrong? It's almost like you've never played another MMO besides XIV in your life.

[strallaalaa]

ffxi had tons of great quests, many with great stories to them. but the big problem is they aren't capped. people end up doing them at max level. so many of them had mini boss fights and lots of cool battles in them. or had to fight your way threw hords of mobs. the big problem with that is they aren't fun less they are done at the level they made it for. they really should cap quests, level you down to the correct level for it, if it's a party quest even. then you do it with party and not 5shot it at max level. those fights took thought to create most likely, unlike the million quests we get these days from any mmo including ffxiv. this whole freedom to do it whenever and however you want is what destroys it. and now companies are probably too lazy to give us that again.

you can see near the end of ffxi's time with expansion wings of goddess. and even auht urgan. many quests were made for max level, so you can see how fun they were intended to be. like the 2 mini bosses in cadarva that took a couple of people to kill. or the giant tree that was in the quest for WOG, quests in that expansion were literally connected to the main story. you had to complete them to move onto the next main mission of the story too. there were hundreds of quests that POP came out boss fights, mini bosses, multi monster fights that would of been a challenge if not one shot. so yeah this is the real problem. people who think everything can be killed at max level, or solo'd or done how they want, when they want.

the one thing GW2 did right is that lower level zones level sync you down to the level intended. or least the max level of that area. battles, quests anything like that would be better if they did this for it. i been begging mmo's to cap quests for ever. every ffxi quest would of been as epic as any end game fight.

[Firon]

Care to prove me wrong? It's almost like you've never played another MMO besides XIV in your life.

Proof? The reason those games failed cause of lack of content and bad balancing problems and just being plain bland. No one is quitting mmo's cause its like WoW they are quitting cause its not better or at least as good as wow. People are also not quitting cause of lack of grouping or w/e cause if that was the case a lot of them would have quit WoW too cause of quest based leveling. People will play the same game over and over again as long as its repackaged right.

I will say it again rift did questing right and did it well its well made game and has some awesome world events. Fighting that giant robot thing that just walks through cities is amazing is better than any world event FFXIV WoW and FFXI has ever done.

Also I played enough mmo's to know that the shit they did in XI is not what i want anymore.


Now Babydoll: I agree with that I understand where you are coming from with that. I ran into the same problems in every mmo i played when I did quest with people.

[Reika]

Cant believe people still saying MMO's fail because of quest based leveling. WoW has been running for almost as long as XI, has it failed to dust because it has Quest based leveling? Rift mimic'd it in almost every way possible, it seems to still be doing well.

So where is their 'failure'. Why do people still subscribe. Why did people buy and play Mists of Pandara, their 4th expansion, and are still playing it? How bout you try and think of what those MMO's have that the ones that failed do not, then you will have the true reasons for failure. Maybe you should actually try playing WoW for more than 5 mins and not be thrown off by the cartoony graphics or the quest you did in tutorial town. Get somewhere in the game, maybe you will learn something.

Because something has quest based leveling is the stupidest reason the continuously throw out there. You use it because you personally dont like it. It's not something that causes MMO's to fail, its just that your stuck in the old ways, stuck on EQ/XI ways, cant move on, cant adapt to or accept 'lifestyle' changes. Its like that old dog you cant teach any new tricks, or a senile old man still telling stories about 'nam and still using the term 'gook' because his mind hasn't been able to move on....

[Firon]

Cant believe people still saying MMO's fail because of quest based leveling. WoW has been running for almost as long as XI, has it failed to dust because it has Quest based leveling? Rift mimic'd it in almost every way possible, it seems to still be doing well.

So where is their 'failure'. Why do people still subscribe. Why did people buy and play Mists of Pandara, their 4th expansion, and are still playing it? How bout you try and think of what those MMO's have that the ones that failed do now, then you will have the true reasons for failure.

Great point's I'll just say this. WoW= CoD. The game has all the thing people like about FPS's these days and they refine what the fans like with each game(not that i still play cod much these days). Other mmo's = Medal of Honor, Does not do anything new just plain copies CoD and does a real bad job at it, does not try to innovate or anything.

[tymora]

When there wasn't a rush for time, I did enjoy the slower moments in FFXI where the people in a leveling party just talk crap to pass the time.

[RisaCooper]

Actually WoW's lvling system was one of the reasons that I quit that game. I played it for a few weeks and got to 72 (when the cap was still 80... idk what it is now.) and I quit. The way they did the questing system and lvling up I hated. I'm not sure why... but for some reason I could not get into the story. I'm pretty sure I only stayed that long because my brother was playing with me for a bit.

Perhaps it was because of the way the quests were presented. A little box with the text that you can easily skip and is hard to read. Perhaps that's why I don't like Aion either... the quest system is exactly the same (At least presentation of the quests.)