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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    First, awesome recolor
    Second, I dont like it at all ( as Shiva ) lol - actually it reminds me of yunalesca x yuna mix

    I think it could be interesting if Shiva "normal mode" is semi human pale white ("Twilight White") but once she starts flinging Ice everywhere ill be damned If she isnt sparkling and frosty. lol

    The blue cold color scheme is shiva's anchor point in design (that and a general clothless getup), like a warm red orange is Ifrit's.
    Oh c'mon xD I just (slopply) selected areas of the picture and shifted their tonality toward another color. It didn't take me more than 10 minutes. Thank you though
    It was just to, exactly, prove my point. That no matter how good the base model is, if you throw weird colors on it it's gonna look weird. And if you judge by the (placeholder) colors, your brain is simply being deceived.
    You said it yourself― this is the FFX Shiva that we all love. Yet with this palette she looks SO weird, despite her base model being perfectly fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas-Lycaeus View Post
    Ah hah, thank you! I should have read the whole thread. Love that art SO MUCH.

    EDIT: Hold on, was that an official dev response or just people speculating again? Either way, I don't see why they wouldn't stick to the art like the other Primals.
    Ferne said exactly on which particular program this model was being created on. And in that particular program, people with 3D modeling experience said, putting good textures is somewhat problematic. The textures we see now are most likely a visual aid for modellers so they don't have to stare at a confusing, completely grey model all the time.
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    Nophica's left nipple, people, he even -says- that it's normal map sculpt data. What in the hells is wrong with people's reading comprehension? This is why there's a drought of new information and-slash-or why we can't have nice things. He even -provided a shot of concept art we'd never seen before- as a "this is what this'll look like when it's done", for Althyk's sake.

    Really, guys? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilan View Post
    Oh c'mon xD I just (slopply) selected areas of the picture and shifted their tonality toward another color. It didn't take me more than 10 minutes. Thank you though
    It was just to, exactly, prove my point. That no matter how good the base model is, if you throw weird colors on it it's gonna look weird. And if you judge by the (placeholder) colors, your brain is simply being deceived.
    You said it yourself― this is the FFX Shiva that we all love. Yet with this palette she looks SO weird, despite her base model being perfectly fine.
    I see you're point. I suppose since we're not shrieking in disgust that it means they get the go ahead lol
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    I wonder if they had released a model with no texturing or colors at all (you know, that weird completely grey 3D version) if people would've have gone: "She's so grey! Why did they make her like that!?"

    Prolly not, but it's really the same thing. Earlier I mentioned that I thought was hoping they'd make her blue/icy which is clearly their intent. This is just a preview of what's coming. Can't blame people for not knowing about 3D graphics and their creation process though - it's a designer kind of aspect that most people just see the final result of.
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    And I have the need to repeat that not everyone knows what a normal map sculpt data is. That caused the confusion.

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain that particular bit though. The "reading comprehension" is apparently off on both sides. Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinSoFZ View Post
    I wonder if they had released a model with no texturing or colors at all (you know, that weird completely grey 3D version) if people would've have gone: "She's so grey! Why did they make her like that!?"

    Prolly not, but it's really the same thing. Earlier I mentioned that I thought was hoping they'd make her blue/icy which is clearly their intent. This is just a preview of what's coming. Can't blame people for not knowing about 3D graphics and their creation process though - it's a designer kind of aspect that most people just see the final result of.
    Well they released the Behemoth armor for the chocobo this way (all gray) - and no one complained

    It would have helped if Fern told us about the color (no bad feelings though, we love batty), I had no idea what FZbrush was / could do lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
    Nophica's left nipple, people, he even -says- that it's normal map sculpt data. What in the hells is wrong with people's reading comprehension? This is why there's a drought of new information and-slash-or why we can't have nice things. He even -provided a shot of concept art we'd never seen before- as a "this is what this'll look like when it's done", for Althyk's sake.

    Really, guys? Really?
    Lol chill out.

    I know what ZBrush is but I have next to zero experience with it. He could have said it was Mudbox, Maya, or any other software and people still wouldn't understand. It has nothing to do with reading comprehension and more to do with people not knowing about modeling pipelines. Thankfully we have a few fellow posters who do.
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    You guys aren't exactly being fair. Its not a matter of reading problems or people are lazy. But the average person will see a full color image as a finished product unless the technicals are explained.
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