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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas-Lycaeus View Post
    Ah hah, thank you! I should have read the whole thread. Love that art SO MUCH.

    EDIT: Hold on, was that an official dev response or just people speculating again? Either way, I don't see why they wouldn't stick to the art like the other Primals.
    Ferne said exactly on which particular program this model was being created on. And in that particular program, people with 3D modeling experience said, putting good textures is somewhat problematic. The textures we see now are most likely a visual aid for modellers so they don't have to stare at a confusing, completely grey model all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilan View Post
    Oh c'mon xD I just (slopply) selected areas of the picture and shifted their tonality toward another color. It didn't take me more than 10 minutes. Thank you though
    It was just to, exactly, prove my point. That no matter how good the base model is, if you throw weird colors on it it's gonna look weird. And if you judge by the (placeholder) colors, your brain is simply being deceived.
    You said it yourself― this is the FFX Shiva that we all love. Yet with this palette she looks SO weird, despite her base model being perfectly fine.
    I see you're point. I suppose since we're not shrieking in disgust that it means they get the go ahead lol
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    I wonder if they had released a model with no texturing or colors at all (you know, that weird completely grey 3D version) if people would've have gone: "She's so grey! Why did they make her like that!?"

    Prolly not, but it's really the same thing. Earlier I mentioned that I thought was hoping they'd make her blue/icy which is clearly their intent. This is just a preview of what's coming. Can't blame people for not knowing about 3D graphics and their creation process though - it's a designer kind of aspect that most people just see the final result of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinSoFZ View Post
    I wonder if they had released a model with no texturing or colors at all (you know, that weird completely grey 3D version) if people would've have gone: "She's so grey! Why did they make her like that!?"

    Prolly not, but it's really the same thing. Earlier I mentioned that I thought was hoping they'd make her blue/icy which is clearly their intent. This is just a preview of what's coming. Can't blame people for not knowing about 3D graphics and their creation process though - it's a designer kind of aspect that most people just see the final result of.
    Well they released the Behemoth armor for the chocobo this way (all gray) - and no one complained

    It would have helped if Fern told us about the color (no bad feelings though, we love batty), I had no idea what FZbrush was / could do lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Well they released the Behemoth armor for the chocobo this way (all gray) - and no one complained

    It would have helped if Fern told us about the color (no bad feelings though, we love batty), I had no idea what FZbrush was / could do lol.
    I dont think the Behemoth armored chocobo was a zbrush model, i think it was post zbrush model(disclaimer: no knowledge to back this up, just an educated guess)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragento View Post
    I dont think the Behemoth armored chocobo was a zbrush model, i think it was post zbrush model(disclaimer: no knowledge to back this up, just an educated guess)
    The behemoth chocobo pictures were shown on the in-game engine, inside of a testing environment.



    They just use ZBrush to produce a super high-polygon count model, which they then convert into a game model, then texture. The stuff they've shown us today, as stated multiple times in this thread, is not the final version.
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    And I have the need to repeat that not everyone knows what a normal map sculpt data is. That caused the confusion.

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain that particular bit though. The "reading comprehension" is apparently off on both sides. Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
    I skimmed through that article and it doesn't say that "it" (3D model, or in this case Shiva) will not look like that (before/after). Key word skimmed.

    Do not expect the majority of internet users to have a big attention span. Some of the people who posted here were able to describe it in much less words and aim specifically at what was troubling us, or Ferne could have just mentioned it was a WIP.
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    You guys aren't exactly being fair. Its not a matter of reading problems or people are lazy. But the average person will see a full color image as a finished product unless the technicals are explained.
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