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    To be completely honest, I've never once heard this complaint... It seems like you're trying to solve a problem that only affects a small minority.
    It's not a complaint. It's a suggestion- but it affects lots of people.

    Unfortunately your solution causes problems for more people than those who benefit from it.
    This is totally subjective. Most of the people complaining about the idea wouldn't even notice it was in place if we didn't already have Eorzea time. I guarantee you if it was like this from the beginning, nobody would complain. Nobody complains about it in any of the other games that have it.

    I'd call it a non-issue, but that would be rude.
    Actually I prefer it when people are honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post

    This is totally subjective. Most of the people complaining about the idea wouldn't even notice it was in place if we didn't already have Eorzea time. I guarantee you if it was like this from the beginning, nobody would complain. Nobody complains about it in any of the other games that have it.
    Most scenic shot takers would not like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by DubstepNinja View Post
    Most scenic shot takers would not like this
    Most scenic shot takers could find some time out of their life to log in in the other part of the day to take some shots- its not something that requires hours and hours to do.

    But apparently, most everybody that has only played FFXI or FFXIV apparently would not like this. I'm honestly amazed at how much hate there is on this. Other games have it and nobody complains. I don't understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Most scenic shot takers could find some time out of their life to log in in the other part of the day to take some shots- its not something that requires hours and hours to do.

    But apparently, most everybody that has only played FFXI or FFXIV apparently would not like this. I'm honestly amazed at how much hate there is on this. Other games have it and nobody complains. I don't understand it.
    Cause this Idea is dumb and you just ignore every argument against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    Cause this Idea is dumb and you just ignore every argument against it.
    Actually, i do not and have not ignore any arguments against it. I simply have reasonable and valid counterarguments.

    Saying "the idea is dumb" is a logical fallacy. You have to state WHY you think it is dumb to make a compelling argument.

    Obviously Blizzard Entertainment didn't think it was dumb- it sure didn't prevent WoW from gaining millions of players, at least.

    Not saying it was a selling point or anything, either- but if it was such a terrible idea, the game's community would have rebelled against it like his one is. Of course, different communities can have very different likes and expectations, as I've discovered. It was certainly an interesting experience, to say the least.

    (edit: decided to cut this a lot shorter. It can be hard to pull oneself away sometimes...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Actually, i do not and have not ignore any arguments against it. I simply have reasonable and valid counterarguments.

    Saying "the idea is dumb" is a logical fallacy. You have to state WHY you think it is dumb to make a compelling argument.

    Obviously Blizzard Entertainment didn't think it was dumb- it sure didn't prevent WoW from gaining millions of players, at least.

    Not saying it was a selling point or anything, either- but if it was such a terrible idea, the game's community would have rebelled against it like his one is. Of course, different communities can have very different likes and expectations, as I've discovered. It was certainly an interesting experience, to say the least.
    Those arguments have been pointed out by a bunch of ppl several times but you just ignore them. It seems that wow is your main argument

    "Cause it works there its good and wee need it"

    Maybe you forgot it but this is not WOW and there is no reason to change a working system and fuck it up and copy&paste some more wow bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Actually, i do not and have not ignore any arguments against it. I simply have reasonable and valid counterarguments.
    No, no you don't. All you do is repeat yourself over and over again despite what others add to the discussion, much like in the animation lock thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I'm honestly amazed at how much hate there is on this. Other games have it and nobody complains. I don't understand it.
    Mainly because it would change the dynamic athstetically of the game we are currently playing with no added convenience. Sure I'm sure alot of games have a 24 hour clock, but that was from the get-go and it's not something people care about.

    But let's say Blizzard decided to go on a time-base like FFXI-XIV (Other games have it as well Ultima Online comes to mind) I'm sure the WoW fanbase would be up in arms about this seemingly useless change because as you point out they wouldn't develope content around the cycle it's just for your personal pleasure that 90% of the people playing don't care for.

    The game started with a short day/night cycle and the developers have allready stated they are looking into adding night-time monsters and other such things to spice up the time cycle.

    I'm sure in some places the sky is green and the grass is blue, but it's always been like that so it's not strange. When someone comes up and tells us that that's wrong and we should think the way he does....well I hope you can see what people are saying.
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    No thanks.
    I am against this.
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    I like frog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Mainly because it would change the dynamic athstetically of the game we are currently playing with no added convenience.
    Throwing out any reason to have game-time control events and other faculties in-game is a pretty huge gain in convenience.

    So far all I see is a bunch of arguments based on the wrong side of aesthetics. Single player RPGs like Fallout and Oblivion allow for a day night cycle because you are also provided with means with which to move time forward without standing around doing nothing. Hell, even the Legend of Zelda did it in Ocarina of Time.

    I might be willing to cut the naysayers some slack if they were solely for day/night cycles provided the only thing they affect is lighting (no mobs that only spawn at a certain time, no events that only happen at certain times, no game functions that are "open" only at certain times, etc). As that is not the case, I still support the OP.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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