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    -S-a-g-e's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Banned users don't deserve another chance. sorry.
    I don't really think you would say the same thing if you were on the other end of a ban without any proper cause or explanation to why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -S-a-g-e View Post
    I don't really think you would say the same thing if you were on the other end of a ban without any proper cause or explanation to why.
    I'll just say "gifthorse".
    Chances are if you've been permabanned on here, you've had plenty of warnings in the form of temps.
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    XI: Shadowtaru (Alexander) Manifest (Shiva) Volnaru (Asura)
    1.0: Delirium Impulse (Mysidia Gungnir)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    I'll just say "gifthorse".
    Chances are if you've been permabanned on here, you've had plenty of warnings in the form of temps.
    This. They never ban you without cause, permabans that is. They'll temporary ban you for hours sometimes a day but a permaban is earned lol.

    Everyone active and not banned will likely get a fresh start since most of the subject matter here will be unrelated to ARR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -S-a-g-e View Post
    I don't really think you would say the same thing if you were on the other end of a ban without any proper cause or explanation to why.
    If you're banned, you did something to deserve it. They don't ban people from the forums easily (I know plenty of people who have gotten many notices of moderator action against them without a ban)

    Thus, in fact, when you are banned, you should know why. They tell you when action is taken. Normally the content of the post that led to the action is cited, so it should be immediately obvious.

    Again: if you get banned, you deserve it. Of course you wouldn't say the same thing if you were on the recieving end: Nobody is ever willing to admit they did something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -S-a-g-e View Post
    I don't really think you would say the same thing if you were on the other end of a ban without any proper cause or explanation to why.
    They give you an explanation when you are banned. I know from experience. And you get a few warnings before you get a perma-ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    They give you an explanation when you are banned. I know from experience. And you get a few warnings before you get a perma-ban.
    This is what I've been lurking for.

    If this is true, then those who were perma-banned, should stay banned.

    So if:

    1. you where told what you did
    2. you where given a chance to stop (not including actions gone too far)
    3. you got banned anyways

    4. then you should stay banned

    To OP's particular case I'm curious how he go perma banned while temp banned.. that doesn't seem quite right. Though he may have said something so crazy in another post that they where like "holy crap, banned".

    Also I believe they temp ban you first and then discuss further action - so his first action may have been the reason why he was banned, they just had to discuss it first. Like they lock and hide threads temporarily sometimes in order to clean it out, and then they will toss it back out. Bubblez will steal your lulz

    He should check and see which emails are connected to his account - perhaps he got the warning but didnt "get it".
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-19-2013 at 03:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    They give you an explanation when you are banned. I know from experience. And you get a few warnings before you get a perma-ban.
    I'm telling you first hand that I have seen both of his emails and only on the first temporary ban did they tell him why the second ban which happened in the middle of his time serving the prior had no excuse whatsoever and they refused to give him an answer through email so he made a call and there they told him it is all handled in Japan and they can't tell him squat all they can do is file a dispute on his behalf.

    The first ban which I understand can be see as hateful and offensive because he directly called someone being born slow in the head or something very close of that nature but never said anything foul,racist, or any other type of bigotry. It is against the UA to directly harass another member of the forums, he understood that and accepted his time allotted ban.The perma-ban blindsided him and was without warning or explanation. I am not disputing his old offenses or anyone elses for that matter.

    I am going to stick to my guns here and say what I have been saying, Final Fantasy XIV is about to have it's second chance and so should all of it's paying players. We are expected to let them have a chance to redeem themselves then they should be held to the same standard as us. Give those who were banned from previous forums behavior and actions a second chance with the start of the new game. I've pretty much said all that I can say about this and you either agree or your disagree, hopefully we will get a dev response on this and their plans in the very near future.
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