PVP gear

[Radacci]

so you must start out by buying pvp gear before you can even pvp? doesn't sound so fun
and u usually buy pvp items with pvp points, so you would maybe need to start by buying low lv gear for free, just cause you dont have enough pvp points to buy anything in your lv range...it's just odd. Don't see why it needs to be exclusive.
And people could get uber powerful pvp weapons and do high damage anyways, so i don't see any issue with pve ppl coming with good gear. Anyone who does lots of pvp should know gear doesn't mean everything; a sucky player in superior gear will loose a good player with inferior gear.
Only pvp stat that would be of any significance would be +pvp damage/def...doesn't feel like it warrents being pvp exclusive gear. If it has other stats it's still usefull in pve, otherwise it's just the same as str/vit/def anyways.

[Rex]

so you must start out by buying pvp gear before you can even pvp? doesn't sound so fun
and u usually buy pvp items with pvp points, so you would maybe need to start by buying low lv gear for free, just cause you dont have enough pvp points to buy anything in your lv range...it's just odd. Don't see why it needs to be exclusive.
And people could get uber powerful pvp weapons and do high damage anyways, so i don't see any issue with pve ppl coming with good gear. Anyone who does lots of pvp should know gear doesn't mean everything; a sucky player in superior gear will loose a good player with inferior gear.
Only pvp stat that would be of any significance would be +pvp damage/def...doesn't feel like it warrents being pvp exclusive gear. If it has other stats it's still usefull in pve, otherwise it's just the same as str/vit/def anyways.

Buy low level PVP gear for free...?

I think the best way to approach this idea would be to have a starting tutorial that gives you basic gear and some PVP points.. Like most things nowadays.

[Radacci]

Buy low level PVP gear for free...?

I think the best way to approach this idea would be to have a starting tutorial that gives you basic gear and some PVP points.. Like most things nowadays.

that wouldnt really fix the problem; that you'd start out with shitty pvp gear, and would need to fight against other people with shitty pvp gear, to get points to buy less shitty gear for a while

[Ragento]

that wouldnt really fix the problem; that you'd start out with shitty pvp gear, and would need to fight against other people with shitty pvp gear, to get points to buy less shitty gear for a while

I cant tell if you like the idea of "need to fight against other people with shitty pvp gear, to get points to buy less shitty gear for a while" or not lol

[Radacci]

I cant tell if you like the idea of "need to fight against other people with shitty pvp gear, to get points to buy less shitty gear for a while" or not lol

i refered to it as a problem
but it's matter of perspective.
in 1 way it's good, so there's some progression.
but in another way it's forced on you. if you're lv 50 already, and got AF set for example, should you be forced to fight with lv 10 (whatever) tutorial set, just because pvp gear is exclusive? your damage output would be absolutly pathetic. it would be like being lv 10 all over again, but with more skills

[Ragento]

i refered to it as a problem
but it's matter of perspective.
in 1 way it's good, so there's some progression.
but in another way it's forced on you. if you're lv 50 already, and got AF set for example, should you be forced to fight with lv 10 (whatever) tutorial set, just because pvp gear is exclusive? your damage output would be absolutly pathetic. it would be like being lv 10 all over again, but with more skills

Oh i see what your thinking, i think the idea that there be a lvl 50 intro pvp set is what i was thinking lol not a lv 10 set.

[Rex]

that wouldnt really fix the problem; that you'd start out with shitty pvp gear, and would need to fight against other people with shitty pvp gear, to get points to buy less shitty gear for a while

I was just humoring the idea. I don't think gear should be exlusive anywhere.

[Rex]

Know what, Do something like (dare I say it) Call of Duty. You have a separate character level in offline multiplayer than you do in online multiplayer.

So...your normal level is the PVE level....and in the PVP arena have a separate level. And to level up you have to fight other people or fight matches against NPCs if you can't find a match with someone that's your level.

[Ragento]

Know what, Do something like (dare I say it) Call of Duty. You have a separate character level in offline multiplayer than you do in online multiplayer.

So...your normal level is the PVE level....and in the PVP arena have a separate level. And to level up you have to fight other people or fight matches against NPCs if you can't find a match with someone that's your level.

so are you saying like have a game with in a game, like my Monk is PVE lv 50 but in PVP he gets reset to lv 1 when i start pvp? or are you talking about ranks, like your character is lv 50 war but hes only rank 15 out of 50 ranks in pvp to seperate the diffrent skill levels in PVP?(if that made sense lol)

[Ragento]

so you must start out by buying pvp gear before you can even pvp? doesn't sound so fun
and u usually buy pvp items with pvp points, so you would maybe need to start by buying low lv gear for free, just cause you dont have enough pvp points to buy anything in your lv range...it's just odd. Don't see why it needs to be exclusive.

lol i didnt say my idea was flawless, was hoping people would take the ideas and run with it,

maybe you can get your first set of pvp gear through a quest line that introduces you to PVP and teaches the player the basics in the process. that way you dont have to pay anything.

And people could get uber powerful pvp weapons and do high damage anyways, so i don't see any issue with pve ppl coming with good gear. Anyone who does lots of pvp should know gear doesn't mean everything; a sucky player in superior gear will loose a good player with inferior gear.
Only pvp stat that would be of any significance would be +pvp damage/def...doesn't feel like it warrents being pvp exclusive gear. If it has other stats it's still usefull in pve, otherwise it's just the same as str/vit/def anyways.

I get what your saying, but imo some one with zero pvp experiance shouldnt be able to walk straight in with elite PVE gear and dominate there should be a progression to it.

maybe an idea where they have different tiers of PVP to separate the lower geared players from the higher geared players by giving an incentive to higher gear players to get better rewards in the higher tiers. also have pvp points be exclusive to each job/class so one person cant farm points on there awsome warrior to get points for there whitemage gear.