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  1. #251
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    Let's play a game! Who does Thancred look most like?

    Thancred:


    Squall:


    Tidus (my vote):


    Vaan:


    Noel:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Let's play a game! Who does Thancred look most like?

    Thancred:


    Squall:


    Tidus (my vote):


    Vaan:


    Noel:
    I'm go with squall minus the face scar
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

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    I'd have to go with Tidus.

    Squall's nose is too narrow and his lips are a different shape

    Noel is just younger, period. His face is more oval shaped.

    Of course it's sometimes hard to distinguish since SE characters all do tend to have the same features (you can see the comparison of the females too)
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    I can't choose between Noel and Squall. They all look the same just different ages lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount View Post
    Thats where we disagree. i believe an opening movie sets the scene, begins the story, initiates the plot. None of that was present here.
    I replied to a post about teasing footage, not about the opener being a "Teaser". Teasing footage could mean anything,
    a Chocobo taking a dump could be a teaser, but that doesnt belong in an opener.
    Let's set some ground definitions:
    Opening movie: Movie that happens before you even start a new game.
    Opener (really should be called prologue or intro): movie that starts when the game starts.
    Teaser: footage or montage of footages released before the product to stir up excitement and desire for said product.

    These are industry standard definitions. Regardless of what you or I say they should or should not mean, this is what they mean to vast majority of people as well as the people who make said product and made the terms.


    Again:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post931623
    Which, yes, is technically arguing the semantics of where teasing should go, in a trailer or an opener. In which I replied that this is an "opening movie", in which, yes, teasing does belong.
    because:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post931532
    b) What good is an opening movie to a game that shows you nothing? Conversely, what good is an opening movie that shows you the entire storyline of the game without having you play it?
    Which means, if I made that too vague, yes, it is where teasing footage is suppose to go.

    About replying to a teaser vs a teasing footage, I already explained this point:
    An opener is usually closer to a teaser. A trailer explains what is coming up, and hence, needs a narrative.
    I should have said "opening movie" instead of opener, but I was trying to not get too technical. The point, however, still stands. As seen from the quote above.



    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount View Post
    Teasing footage could mean anything,
    a Chocobo taking a dump could be a teaser, but that doesnt belong in an opener.
    And yes, as I mentioned before, teasing footages do belong in an opening movie because:

    An opener is an invitation to come in, not the intro to a book.
    Again, should have used opening movie instead of opener. But did it to not try to sound too technical. The point still stands.
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    Last edited by Laume; 01-08-2013 at 06:05 AM. Reason: went on a tangent that wasn't necessary

  6. #256
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    I watched the video a few times today. Trying to figure out if it is just a random series of clips/events or if there is a significance to them.

    My theory is this.

    Perhaps Bahamut was weak from breaking free of Dalamud/wrecking up Eorzea and entered a type of hibernation. It could be the reason much of the world now has strange formations and new vegetation (Ex: Mor Dohna is more like it's original appearance before 1.0, during its opening movie) because of the summoned Aether from trying to seal Bahamut was scattered around, rejuvenating the land and repairing a lot of the damage. This also released some other baddies from slumber (Odin/Behemoth, etc).

    This period (5 years) enables the people left alive to rebuild, which might suggest how such progress was made in such a short time.

    I think the three nation's main story arc characters didn't get teleported to the future/rift/whatever holding place our characters were in. I think they remained behind to rebuild the world. It is possible the devices they wear are a device Cid constructed to determine the time that our characters and the rest of the forces fighting at the end of the world would emerge. Maybe even to measure how deep Bahamut was snoozing underground in his labyrinth.

    Shortly after the mass of Chocobo riders start to emerge and form into a giant riding force, Limsa is shown setting off fireworks and the folks that were left behind are showing excitement. Perhaps excitement because the day had arrived that their loved ones that fought in the war had finally been released from the Rift and would return home. (Since shortly after this is when we see "our characters" (The people representing the average adventurer) emerge to see the new world. Much like the riders at the start of the 2.0 footage, they summon their Chocobos (Who probably were also left behind/mildly perturbed/yet now happy to see them) and ride off into the Realm Reborn.

    Just my 2g. I was bored and am known for having an overactive imagination.
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    Why i think the opening movie was sufficient is:

    a) it show's the end of the old era
    b) it show's people going about their business oblivious to 1.0 event's, NPC's, and possibly implied to new players
    c) it show's that the survivors of 1.0 who still remember, have a roll to play in the new world NPC's, implied old players
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  8. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laume View Post
    Let's set some ground definitions:
    Opening movie: Movie that happens before you even start a new game.
    Opener (really should be called prologue or intro): movie that starts when the game starts.
    Teaser: footage or montage of footages released before the product to stir up excitement and desire for said product.

    These are industry standard definitions. Regardless of what you or I say they should or should not mean, this is what they mean to vast majority of people as well as the people who make said product and made the terms.


    Again:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post931623


    because:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post931532

    Which means, if I made that too vague, yes, it is where teasing footage is suppose to go.

    About replying to a teaser vs a teasing footage, I already explained this point:

    I should have said "opening movie" instead of opener, but I was trying to not get too technical. The point, however, still stands. As seen from the quote above.




    And yes, as I mentioned before, teasing footages do belong in an opening movie because:


    Again, should have used opening movie instead of opener. But did it to not try to sound too technical. The point still stands.
    you got issues Laume?
    i dont like how scenes are needlessly cut into the cinematic thats all.
    so stop this jargon rubbish, i really aint interested.
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    Do the Circle members look 5 years older? I mean, an easy way to tell if they got a lift from Lou is to see if they age. If they "LOOK" older, then we can say they didn't go to the void with us (those in the Void don't age remember).

    Unfortunately, only the Hyurs would be the best race to decide this as the other races may not show much aging in 5 years. And one of the Hyurs has half her face covered, so that leaves us with good ol' Thancred.

    Does he "look" 5 years older? To me, he kinda sorta does or at least he looks different than in 1.0 CG. But SE could be using different CG than in 1.0. I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount View Post
    you got issues Laume?
    i dont like how scenes are needlessly cut into the cinematic thats all.
    so stop this jargon rubbish, i really aint interested.
    Like I said, this was my industry for many years. Just like people who like what they do, I enjoy informing people about it. No need to make it personal. Besides, you were the one that got technical of where teasing footage should be in. I just helped out in clarifying the points, purposes and reason for what is where and why.

    And like I said, that's fine if you don't like it. Just don't try to confuse people with improper use of terms of the trade (industry jargon). Lol, jargon rubbish. You know, technically, things like wheel alignment and suspension calibration is car jargon. You would can be in real trouble if you asked for a wheel alignment when you really needed rotate your tires. So jargon is quite important.
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