dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[Kilta_Firelotus]

@ blair
I was a casual player. I ask the first person I ran into, who was a pc player and a casual player. so............ ok.

so pretty much your off on your description. anyone can help anyone. You don;t need to be a hardcore player to help others. So pretty much your logic is faulty And I think you mean dedicated player. Anyone can be that hard core or casual. Remember hardcore and casual when talking players don;t always mean what you think it does. But more importently its getting old to se people lable others. So pl play for different durations, both ppl are players. No ine is more special.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I would put my self in the crowd that was really hoping to see more of a Final Fantasy XI evolved, in Final Fantasy XIV. Just because a game follows the same principles as a predecessor does not mean it has to be the same game. All Final Fantasy games up until Final Fantasy X-2 (which was god awful) for the most part followed the same basic principles, and IMO that is what made a Final Fantasy a Final Fantasy.

In Final Fantasy XIII Square Enix again tried to change the Final Fantasy formula and what did they get a massively hated game in Japan with a few Fan purchases in NA. I remember when i saw a posting on a forum for FFXIII where a guy posted a picture of a group of people in japan throwing their games into a fire pit (there are a bunch of FFXIII hate pictures lol).

P.S. i am still enjoying this game, just not as much as i did FFXI, and the challenge it offered me.

As long as anyone can access these im ok as long as it isn't to cloned.

[Seif]

I agree everything is either laughably easy or one shot kill hard. There's absolutely no natural enemy placement nor difficulty curve of any kind. Also the leves are a joke and that's all there is even the quests give the player absolutely no freedom in how to complete them.

[Jennestia]

I agree everything is either laughably easy or one shot kill hard. There's absolutely no natural enemy placement nor difficulty curve of any kind. Also the leves are a joke and that's all there is even the quests give the player absolutely no freedom in how to complete them.

Quests are generally predefined entities though, even in offline games. Guildleves were designed for people who can barely play the game, but it's also the only main stream content available so yeah it seems worse than it is because of that.

[Visch]

Their priority is the casual player, make no mistake about that

Casuals = Shitload of money
Hardcore = Way less shitload of money & Bitching about every single little change

Um how does casual = money?

Who are they going to make any money off people who don't even play and are just going to leave in a few months?

Are you dense?

3 million players for 1 year < 500k players for 8 years.

No one bitched about ANYTHING in XI EXCEPT casuals.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Um how does casual = money?

Who are they going to make any money off people who don't even play and are just going to leave in a few months?

Are you dense?

3 million players for 1 year < 500k players for 8 years.

No one bitched about ANYTHING in XI EXCEPT casuals.

you know that isn't true. Casuals do not game jump like your claiming. everyone does after some point. so let me ask you
are you dense?

or do you just like being a sh-- stirrer

ps everyone complained about ffxi not just the casuals.

[Zenaku]

you know that isn't true. Casuals do not game jump like your claiming. everyone does after some point. so let me ask you
are you dense?

or do you just like being a sh-- stirrer

ps everyone complained about ffxi not just the casuals.

Am sorry but you seem to be the most hard headed person on here your idea of casual are very wrong. You don't even play FFXI and on here for hours a day but then again call yourself casual? i'm sorry but you look noting far from casual player if you have time to be here for hours.

Why don't you just log in and play the game and see what the game have to give and get yourself 50 then wait like the rest of us?

Casual end up quiting game more then Hardcore players for a lot of big reason they jump around mmo a lot and then come back see the update play few months then quit again while hardcore players play for hours and even still pay the game without paying for it. there a lot of players on ffxiah talking about paying for ffxi without even playing it. i done that myself i pay for 5month and not even play 8hours a month. While casual would just cancel the game too they come back.

[Visch]

you know that isn't true. Casuals do not game jump like your claiming. everyone does after some point. so let me ask you
are you dense?

or do you just like being a sh-- stirrer

ps everyone complained about ffxi not just the casuals.

That is what defines a casual gamer. They're going to go do something else. If you're casual you're not going to be playing the game for 8 years.

Either way, I'm done with you. You shouldn't even be on these forums because you're nothing but a troll.

1) You don't even play this game. You can't have an opinion based off what other people say.
2) Your facts are constantly wrong and fabricated.
3) Your posts are full of errors and completely incoherent.

[Zenaku]

That is what defines a casual gamer. They're going to go do something else. If you're casual you're not going to be playing the game for 8 years.

Either way, I'm done with you. You shouldn't even be on these forums because you're nothing but a troll.

1) You don't even play this game. You can't have an opinion based off what other people say.
2) Your facts are constantly wrong and fabricated.
3) Your posts are full of errors and completely incoherent.



I can't even understand what you're trying to say.

Are you personally attacking me because I'm posting? This doesn't make sense. Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNknL...el_video_title

I'm posting because if SE only hears from people who don't play the game or people who have to cry when they don't get something right away then they'll think every NA player is a cry baby.

huh i was not even talking to you

Sadly they should not make forums the main way to get views of players they should make a poll each months and see what the overall thinks. Hearing the same 10-20 players is not going to help us anyways.

[Visch]

huh i was not even talking to you

Sadly they should not make forums the main way to get views of players they should make a poll each months and see what the overall thinks. Hearing the same 10-20 players is not going to help us anyways.

Very sorry!!!

And yes I agree.