Lifetime Subscription

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People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

do you get tired at all with arguing with every single poster who has an opinion?

[HiirNoivl]

Who do you think you are? God? lol

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?

do you get tired at all with arguing with every single poster who has an opinion?

I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

[Starlord]

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?



I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

Lifetime Subs are mostly givin' out when they are about to make a Switch from P2P to F2P (I don't care what kind of F2P it is, it's still F2P) and I don;t want either of them. If they do offer Lifetime.. then I'm going to get worried about the Future of ARR. That's how I feel =(.

[HiirNoivl]

Lifetime Subs are mostly givin' out when they are about to make a Switch from P2P to F2P (I don't care what kind of F2P it is, it's still F2P) and I don;t want either of them. If they do offer Lifetime.. then I'm going to get worried about the Future of ARR. That's how I feel =(.

Yes but that's not reason not to have them. I know the the connotation may be bad in your eyes, but to me it's a more optimistic option. If they have a lifetime sub, then there's little reason to think that the servers will go down in flames after 2 years (again).

The fears about offering lifetime subs are based on imaginary scenarios and not in actual math or even in reality. Games going F2P have nothing to do with subscription options. Lifetime sub discount takes years to go into effect and they lost money for being bad games or the plan to go F2P was in the works from the get-go

[Starlord]

Yes but that's not reason not to have them. I know the the connotation may be bad in your eyes, but to me it's a more optimistic option. If they have a lifetime sub, then there's little reason to think that the servers will go down in flames after 2 years (again).

The fears about offering lifetime subs are based on imaginary scenarios and not in actual math or even in reality. Games going F2P have nothing to do with subscription options. Lifetime sub discount takes years to go into effect and they lost money for being bad games or the plan to go F2P was in the works from the get-go

Not many people will throw that kind of dough at SE in one Glump anyways, so if they do offer it, it will only be a Limited time Offer thing. But there's a 95% chance that this will not happen.

[Zehira]

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?

Um no, I can't address your "WILL" posts because you think yourself you are God... =/

Yes, Yes my child. I am G... *feels a moderator's lidless gaze*..

The instant boost to cash flow can help SE greatly, it all depends on if they need to expand their team to explode in production at wake of ARR release, specially if they release before 100% ready. We can really know at beta.

Also SE can invest the money and its possible to make more in that route then letting it trickle in (not guaranteed).

Its not a waste for SE to consider this, and it really is up to very educated decisions by SE team who have the numbers and dev plans (players can speculate of course- its just not as accurate a calculation when you dont have all the information). It may be a bad plan for them, it may be a great plan, most likely if they ran it they would want to moderate how many came in through it (though -most- people dont load up on big purchases like that, I imagine a few hundred would out of(/per) thousands).

It's very hard to say ARR needs to have lifetime subs since it's the international game like FFXI and you are right that it needs to be very educated decisions. Yoshi-P is like a new man and his first time being a producer, however he has experienced being a director for many games before (<33 Super Bomberman games) so we shouldn't be worrying tho. Good thing that SE got the awesome producer that can use the company's powers to keep us entertaining. lol

Yes, BETA here we are waiting...

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People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?

life time subs are a gamble for SE they are a gamble for the player. You cant say SE wont lose money cause its a gamble and they dont even know



I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

you didnt have to quote someone, see the red text