Lifetime Subscription

[HiirNoivl]

People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

[Zehira]

People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

Who do you think you are? God? lol

My suggestion would be... Make it F2P for players who want to try it with limited content (similar to alpha) and give them some time to think if they really want to buy it and pay to play.

We never know until beta tho. This forum keeps getting rage and rage explosion...

[Shougun]

Who do you think you are? God? lol

My suggestion would be... Make it F2P for players who want to try it with limited content (similar to alpha) and give them some time to think if they really want to buy it and pay to play.

We never know until beta tho. This forum keeps getting rage and rage explosion...

Yes, Yes my child. I am G... *feels a moderator's lidless gaze*..

The instant boost to cash flow can help SE greatly, it all depends on if they need to expand their team to explode in production at wake of ARR release, specially if they release before 100% ready. We can really know at beta.

Also SE can invest the money and its possible to make more in that route then letting it trickle in (not guaranteed).

Its not a waste for SE to consider this, and it really is up to very educated decisions by SE team who have the numbers and dev plans (players can speculate of course- its just not as accurate a calculation when you dont have all the information). It may be a bad plan for them, it may be a great plan, most likely if they ran it they would want to moderate how many came in through it (though -most- people dont load up on big purchases like that, I imagine a few hundred would out of(/per) thousands).

[Felis]

Who do you think you are? God? lol

My suggestion would be... Make it F2P for players who want to try it with limited content (similar to alpha) and give them some time to think if they really want to buy it and pay to play.

We never know until beta tho. This forum keeps getting rage and rage explosion...

A trial time would be good. But it need to be balanced. Enough freedom to test the low level time and enough restriction to give RMT no advantage. Something like max. level 20 + no DoH/DoL class + max. 25 hour playtime (this would be 5 days with 5 hours each day)

[Zehira]

A trial time would be good. But it need to be balanced. Enough freedom to test the low level time and enough restriction to give RMT no advantage. Something like max. level 20 + no DoH/DoL class + max. 25 hour playtime (this would be 5 days with 5 hours each day)

This would be a good idea... d

[syntaxlies]

People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

do you get tired at all with arguing with every single poster who has an opinion?

[HiirNoivl]

Who do you think you are? God? lol

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?

do you get tired at all with arguing with every single poster who has an opinion?

I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

[Starlord]

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?



I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

Lifetime Subs are mostly givin' out when they are about to make a Switch from P2P to F2P (I don't care what kind of F2P it is, it's still F2P) and I don;t want either of them. If they do offer Lifetime.. then I'm going to get worried about the Future of ARR. That's how I feel =(.

[HiirNoivl]

Lifetime Subs are mostly givin' out when they are about to make a Switch from P2P to F2P (I don't care what kind of F2P it is, it's still F2P) and I don;t want either of them. If they do offer Lifetime.. then I'm going to get worried about the Future of ARR. That's how I feel =(.

Yes but that's not reason not to have them. I know the the connotation may be bad in your eyes, but to me it's a more optimistic option. If they have a lifetime sub, then there's little reason to think that the servers will go down in flames after 2 years (again).

The fears about offering lifetime subs are based on imaginary scenarios and not in actual math or even in reality. Games going F2P have nothing to do with subscription options. Lifetime sub discount takes years to go into effect and they lost money for being bad games or the plan to go F2P was in the works from the get-go

[Starlord]

Yes but that's not reason not to have them. I know the the connotation may be bad in your eyes, but to me it's a more optimistic option. If they have a lifetime sub, then there's little reason to think that the servers will go down in flames after 2 years (again).

The fears about offering lifetime subs are based on imaginary scenarios and not in actual math or even in reality. Games going F2P have nothing to do with subscription options. Lifetime sub discount takes years to go into effect and they lost money for being bad games or the plan to go F2P was in the works from the get-go

Not many people will throw that kind of dough at SE in one Glump anyways, so if they do offer it, it will only be a Limited time Offer thing. But there's a 95% chance that this will not happen.