7th Alpha video "Levequests and Party Combat"

[Tonkra]

I'ma tell you somethin' that you may not know.

This isn't CoD.

that isnt what i tried to tell you. i said this, because some people seem like they want to have a "FF of Duty". what means.. mainstream. like Guildwars 2, TERA; SWTOR etc.

more action, action, button smashing.. boom boom. ya know.

I'm fed up with the pre-"CoD generation" and their "everything needs to take as long as humanly possible because it just should!" nonsense. Not a single person in the entire world complains about having a faster internet connection than they used to...so why are you doing the exact same thing with gaming?

Things progress. Deal with it.

so a turn based game like might and magic isnt a modern "progressed" game to you? same for strategy games? ;XD

sorry what kind of stupid post here.. faster, more spam, does not imply that this is a modern game.. if it ends like an awful feeling spam fest like GW2 or TERA please kill me.. the combat in ARR isnt slow to me.

[Eekiki]

that isnt what i tried to tell you. i said this, because some people seem like they want to have a "FF of Duty". what means.. mainstream. like Guildwars 2, TERA; SWTOR etc.

more action, action, button smashing.. boom boom. ya know.



so a turn based game like might and magic isnt a modern "progressed" game to you? same for strategy games? ;XD

sorry what kind of stupid post here.. faster, more spam, does not imply that this is a modern game.. if it ends like an awful feeling spam fest like GW2 or TERA please kill me.. the combat in ARR isnt slow to me.

Just because a game is what you call "mainstream" doesn't mean it's a bad game.

Likewise, just because combat isn't what you call "slow" doesn't mean it's what you call a "spam fest".

You are reading entirely too much into this video. Its only purpose was to show you the party UI. Take a Zanax and chill.

This post explains everything.

[Tonkra]

Just because a game is what you call "mainstream" doesn't mean it's a bad game.

Likewise, just because combat isn't what you call "slow" doesn't mean it's what you call a "spam fest".

You are reading entirely too much into this video. Its only purpose was to show you the party UI. Take a Zanax and chill.

This post explains everything.

you totally misunderstood me i think... i am not saying that i think that ARR combat is too fast.. i was refering to "Hopefully the beta shows a revamped battle system because the system in the video looks boring." what it doesnt to me..

and the other one said " Not a single person in the entire world complains about having a faster internet connection than they used to...so why are you doing the exact same thing with gaming?

Things progress. Deal with it. "

saying that a faster combat is a part of the "modern way of gaming". what it isnt you can design turn based, you can design action combat, you can design a mix between these.
faster does not mean "more modern". its a matter of a design decision.

that you can cast almost any spell as an elementalist in guildwars 2 instant and "on the fly" does not mean, that this system is more "modern"..


thats why i was refering to CoD. because they cry for more "action", "why do i have to stand still while casting?" , "why we cant cast while running?" , "we need more instant bUtt0ns".
why do SE has to do the same like TERA and GW2 with ther Combat system? a conjurer must not be able to cast a wind spell while moving like a crazy chicken.. why, why why..
but it looks like the players want them to do so.

[Klefth]

Is THIS (GW2) more fun to you? (besides that the environment sucks in comparison to ARR)
well at least while playing GW2 i felt aslept and bored out.. although you can cast (or shall i say SPAM?) every fuckin' spell "on the fly".

the elementalist feels so badly designed.. less damage, spam monster 0verKilL.. no then i like it much more like we can see it in this video here. but thats my matter of taste.


how people these days try to hard to make a damn "Call Of Duty" out of every MMO. it did not make GW2 or TERA better in any ways! and i always have in mind that FF originally is coming from a turn based RPG.


im so fed up with this CoD generation. ..
*boom boom* peng* peng* we need more instant SPAM BUTTONS!

Watching this sort of videos from the game's competition make me feel kind of reassured.

GW2's combat looks absolutely awful. Not only does it look like a mindless spamfest, but it also turns mage gameplay (and I bet not just the mage's) into more of a third person shooter than an RPG.

I'm not all that happy about the changes to the combat system, but at least I hope they steer clear out of that style most MMOs are going for. It looks terrible to say the least.

[Eekiki]

you totally misunderstood me i think...

Maybe I did...

Are you saying you liked what you saw in the video??

[Tonkra]

Maybe I did...

Are you saying you liked what you saw in the video??

yes i liked it

[Eekiki]

yes i liked it

Then I did misunderstand you. I apologize.

My point is still valid, though, even if it doesn't apply to you.

[Felis]

Nice to hear, but there is any info on why the fights looks so static? ... 5 mins of spamming ws vs tank & spank mobs..
This look pretty boring to people used to the "new" games...

Maybe because of the CNJ+ARC+LNC stacking party
A party without a PGL is always boring ^^

[Shurrikhan]

sorry i disagree.. the battlesystem is A LOT better than 1.0. and i love it.

im so fed up with this CoD generation. ..
*boom boom* peng* peng* we need more instant SPAM BUTTONS!

That would also appear to be the direction that ARR is going in, even from the videos alone. Just... with a GCD that feels a bit irkingly long on any class but Archer.

Edit: to be clear, I agree with the idea that combat doesn't need to be fast nor is there any necessary connection between "fast" and "modern". I just think that a game's timing should fit the feel of combat as a whole. ARR thus far doesn't look tactile--it looks relatively instantaneous and capable of a very real sense of timing; as such I would expect that I'm not waiting exactly two and a half seconds between each of my lightning-quick attacks, but that this kind of pacing also feels real. This takes either a slight bit of general slowing of the animations to a still-reasonable and more tactically-appreciative pace, or some decrease to the time between attacks. Or, it requires a system that completely leaves that field of contention altogether.

[Shurrikhan]

Maybe because of the CNJ+ARC+LNC stacking party
A party without a PGL is always boring ^^

We only have those 3 classes made so far. Rest probably won't arrive til Beta. Though I agree with the need for PGL when seeking entertainment...