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  1. #1381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebard View Post
    Why is this thread still open?
    All I see are a handful of angry people who refuse to understand what the alpha test was for and lots of frustrated people trying to explain simple facts to them over and over and over.
    I guess people just want to vent that they missed their chance to play literally like 5% of the game. I am honestly ashamed to be apart of this fanbase... It's so embarassing. This is the first alpha phase I've ever seen where people simply don't understand that it is meant to be a controlled environment, not some party that no-one is invited to or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebard View Post
    Why is this thread still open?
    All I see are a handful of angry people who refuse to understand what the alpha test was for and lots of frustrated people trying to explain simple facts to them over and over and over.
    Even most alpha testers don't know what an alpha test is for. Very few actually go out and hunt for bugs to report, they treat it as an early demo.
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    bug hunting isn't even the most important thing in an alpha test, that's what a beta is for. Don't forget in an alpha test you only have maybe 5% of the game you can play or even less and many systems are just temporary and will get replaced anyway. It's basic testing about server stability and some other basic features.

    Of course you want feedback but the major bughunting will be done during the beta anyway. Most of ppl complaining about not getting in just want to test out the game for theirselfes.
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    Even if they invited 1.0 players only there would not be room for everyone and these same people would still be crying the same song anyway. its simply not enough room for everyone regardless how SE decided to do the alpha but people cannot get that through their heads.

    Playing 1.0 does not earn you the right to play alpha you got what you got for playing 1.0 already. Yoshi has stated since day one, his goal is regain players trust back to show them that his game he created is good enough to just do that and a lot of those people think so now.

    Then you have the people yelling this bullshit about how they want to test the game so they can make it better, well buddy that is not what alpha is for its there just to stress the servers to the limit so they can see how far they can push the server limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Even if they invited 1.0 players only there would not be room for everyone and these same people would still be crying the same song anyway. its simply not enough room for everyone regardless how SE decided to do the alpha but people cannot get that through their heads.

    Playing 1.0 does not earn you the right to play alpha you got what you got for playing 1.0 already. Yoshi has stated since day one, his goal is regain players trust back to show them that his game he created is good enough to just do that and a lot of those people think so now.

    Then you have the people yelling this bullshit about how they want to test the game so they can make it better, well buddy that is not what alpha is for its there just to stress the servers to the limit so they can see how far they can push the server limits.
    Yeah and I find it funny because most likely those same people will make the game worse given a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKupo View Post
    I guess people just want to vent that they missed their chance to play literally like 5% of the game. I am honestly ashamed to be apart of this fanbase... It's so embarassing. This is the first alpha phase I've ever seen where people simply don't understand that it is meant to be a controlled environment, not some party that no-one is invited to or something...
    I agree. The Japanese players must be horrified at the English players' behavior. It is shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Alpha: let the plebs try a watered down version of ARR

    Beta: Let all the Legacy members/1.0 people back in

    Save the best for last. I'd be getting all bent out of shape if I was not getting a Beta invite. Alpha is just...Alpha. @.@
    I dunno, objectively you sound a little bitter about alpha saying it like THAT. If you had said the alpha line with a little more tact I wouldn't have gotten that impression. Just saying!

    Not saying you're wrong. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKupo View Post
    I guess people just want to vent that they missed their chance to play literally like 5% of the game. I am honestly ashamed to be apart of this fanbase... It's so embarassing. This is the first alpha phase I've ever seen where people simply don't understand that it is meant to be a controlled environment, not some party that no-one is invited to or something...
    I think the frustration people are having is fear that this is how SE is going to pick people for beta. I don't think people are necessarily butt hurt they didn't get alpha, its more that they see that is how SE does their selection and worry that they won't participate till way later in beta testing, where feedback for the content itself matters. I think people are arguing two different subjects at each other. Will be very quiet in here if SE came out and said "This is how we are going to pick people for beta...yada yada yada.". Well...not quiet, people will just talk about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    This is a gigantic flaw with SE not only in FFXIV, but their state of thinking in general. Alienating their current fan base to please a new crowd has almost never worked in their favor.
    Baseless self-entitlement is high on this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Baseless self-entitlement is high on this one...
    A bit, but there is some truth in that. It's very hard to keep a fan base interested without anything tangible to try. Releasing alpha videos, sure lifted some frustration, created more problems than it solved. People got a nice sneak peek at the aspects included in alpha but then everyone started taking it seriously like it was the final product and nitpicked it to death. It scared a lot of the player base.

    We all want to keep playing the game that we've been playing, and change scares people. I predict that there will be some measure of loss in the current fan base, but we'll gain new fans in return. The thing that scares me the most is people going to other games in this long long gap between 1.0 and 2.0.
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