[Reminder] Are you ready to cry again? (2° Wave of Alpha invites tomorrow, 3 dec.)

[Abriael]

Stop trying to use the paying customers excuse everyone paid for the game at some point. Even if you just bought the game @ release.

When a game requires a periodic fee, if you discontinue paying that fee, you're not a paying customer anymore. That's the difference between a one-time product and a continuated service. MMOs are a service.

Having paid once != Being a paying customer

It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

[Firon]

When a game requires a periodic subscription, if you discontinue that subscription, you're not a paying customer anymore.

It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

Still paid for the product.... it was enough money from the sales to fund the game going free for a year so they paid more than enough.

Also just because you paid a sub does not mean you auto get into alpha, you would be crying the same song no matter the outcome anyway.

[Abriael]

And your the one that won't stop repeating yourself.

So are you. Your point?

Consideration is a wonderful word -.-. It's not like your saying it for the first- 10th time this is like 100 times now. Your right I should stop.. but are you giving me a reason to?

Sure I am. I'm providing solid arguments you evidently can't counter. That would be reason enough for someone to stop. But whether you want to stop or not, you sure can't accuse anyone of being a "spammer" when you're actually repeating yourself more than he does.

Still paid for the product.... it was enough money from the sales to fund the game going free for a year so they paid more than enough.

Also just because you paid a sub does not mean you auto get into alpha, you would be crying the same song no matter the outcome anyway.

1: you have no idea where they got the funds for the game to be free for a year. It's not a given that they covered it with box sales. Actually, it's highly improbable.
2: There's a large difference between products and services. With a service that requires a periodic fee, you're a paying customer only as long as you don't discontinue the payiment of that fee. And this is what an MMORPG is. You're not paying for the files included in the disc or for the disc itself, but for the license to use those assets. As soon as you stop paying, the license is interrupted, and with it your status as paying customer.
3: making arbitrary assumptions on what I "would" do doesn't really add any solidity to your argument beside a petty personal attack.

[moriandrio]

When a game requires a periodic fee, if you discontinue paying that fee, you're not a paying customer anymore. That's the difference between a one-time product and a continuated service. MMOs are a service.

Having paid once != Being a paying customer

It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

Are you paying for it right now or did you pay at any time the alpha was running?