SE stop doing the "norm"

[Kallera]

Nope they have not. So sick of people thinking that's getting blind folded and being spin around 10 times when you do quest makes it fun.

I still remember some dumb quest in XI that sent me to Cedeave(spelling) mire to find a ??? they never said which direction or even which one of the 12 zones/exits the mire has, i got the quest in The main city of ToUA but the ??? was in some retarded place filled with soulflayers.

People need to stop thinking that the hard part of the quest should be finding the location the only hard part should be the objective of the quest. I also find it funny that some people complain about hand holding was the ones who was complain about how hard the lvl 1-20 guildleves were at one point.

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

[Kyri]

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

This makes me think of those few story and job quests that had us use map to locate the place get there and not find where we were supposed to go because it was above or below ground. It makes me giggle how often I would hear people WTF'ing those quests and asking why.

Man that Caedevra Mire.. I died.. SOOOOOOO many times trying to navigate there.

[Firon]

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

If you want someone to find something for you, you don't say go look in the Atlantic ocean you give them a general location.

They could have said anything like The the south mire of of X town/ X portal cause it was so many zones for that place. Don't pretend like being completely blind is fun.

[Kallera]

If you want someone to find something for you, you don't say go look in the Atlantic ocean you give them a general location.

They could have said anything like The the south mire of of X town/ X portal cause it was so many zones for that place. Don't pretend like being completely blind is fun.

Don't pretend exploration isn't fun either. More to the point, it keeps people playing longer, an interest for the MMO developer.

[Firon]

Don't pretend exploration isn't fun either. More to the point, it keeps people playing longer, an interest for the MMO developer.

Nothing wrong with exploring no one here is arguing for hand holding, no one does not want to be blind folded tho. There are plenty of games out there that can show you the general location and still make it tough to find, stop acting like its noway to do both.

[Thebard]

Nothing wrong with exploring no one here is arguing for hand holding, no one does not want to be blind folded tho. There are plenty of games out there that can show you the general location and still make it tough to find, stop acting like its noway to do both.

Firon is completely right. If there people are "blindfolded" they will just look up the answer/location on the internet, so the blindfold approach is a waste of time, there needs to be a balance.

[Firon]

Firon is completely right. If there people are "blindfolded" they will just look up the answer/location on the internet, so the blindfold approach is a waste of time, there needs to be a balance.

This statement brings me back to XI when did that lvl cap quest that wanted you to go tot he 3 beastman strongholds. Instead of telling you the ??? you are looking for with a clever message he(Maat) just tells you to go there. When i first did that quest i was in castle O for hours trying to figure out where to go before i decided to look it up on the net, then i hit another road block the fkin passwords lol.

[Kyri]

This statement brings me back to XI when did that lvl cap quest that wanted you to go tot he 3 beastman strongholds. Instead of telling you the ??? you are looking for with a clever message he(Maat) just tells you to go there. When i first did that quest i was in castle O for hours trying to figure out where to go before i decided to look it up on the net, then i hit another road block the fkin passwords lol.

Haha good times good times :P You forgot the part where you finally beat the #%$#$@ password go down and have to get past 20 yags and a NM before you can get to that last ??? lol

[Thebard]

This statement brings me back to XI when did that lvl cap quest that wanted you to go tot he 3 beastman strongholds. Instead of telling you the ??? you are looking for with a clever message he(Maat) just tells you to go there. When i first did that quest i was in castle O for hours trying to figure out where to go before i decided to look it up on the net, then i hit another road block the fkin passwords lol.

What was that ls? Immortal something...

[Kallera]

Firon is completely right. If there people are "blindfolded" they will just look up the answer/location on the internet, so the blindfold approach is a waste of time, there needs to be a balance.

I agree and have argued for a balance between one and the other. But apparently FFXI was as tough as the Lady of Pain's mazes for some people, and Pheonix server was somehow spared all this...