SE stop doing the "norm"

[strallaalaa]

Let's Hope they give us those type of Quests, I mean I don't mind Quests that are boring, but I hope at least have the quests are "Surprising".

not to rain on your parade but every mmo has this. least a lot of them do, gw2 even. lots of items you click on and pop comes mobs. in ffxi almost every other item you clicked on a monster came after you. fact they were every other time a mini boss or hard encounter rather then little slugs that you kill in a couple shots.

if they add bosses to these and add huge huge chunks of exp to them it might be fun, but reality is just like tera you take 5mins to find people to do it ..if not you move on and skip them and back to the boring ones(waiting any longer you could do 2-3normal and got same exp). that is also the huge diff from making people group all the time to only once in while. (it equates to never for most people)

if you just make them all huge chunks but solo it's kinda like secret world and it is just as boring as any other mob. if you need to solo something epic ...offline fights are way more epic. i've yet to solo anything in ffxiv and said wow that was awesome. and if that happens then great but i have this feeling anything with any feeling to it will be party play.

tldr, every mmo has "surprise" mobs pop out during things

[Firon]

You almost make it sound like WOW doesn't have anything else in it besides quest grinds. I wonder if people like you even played the damn game for more than 10 minutes.

Nope they have not. So sick of people thinking that's getting blind folded and being spin around 10 times when you do quest makes it fun.

I still remember some dumb quest in XI that sent me to Cedeave(spelling) mire to find a ??? they never said which direction or even which one of the 12 zones/exits the mire has, i got the quest in The main city of ToUA but the ??? was in some retarded place filled with soulflayers.

People need to stop thinking that the hard part of the quest should be finding the location the only hard part should be the objective of the quest. I also find it funny that some people complain about hand holding was the ones who was complain about how hard the lvl 1-20 guildleves were at one point.

[mikoto_qc]

You almost make it sound like WOW doesn't have anything else in it besides quest grinds. I wonder if people like you even played the damn game for more than 10 minutes.

Ok change WoW for SW:TOR (who is eactly a copy-paste of WoW) and yes i have been playing it for more then 10 minutes( have only play WoW for 1 week tho). All i have heard about ARR its simply the same thing as SW, and if theres not enough ORIGINAL content, this game is going to be fail for me. You might have enjoy this kinda Casual MMO, i dont. And when i look at all the Fail MMO in the last 3-4years, ARR might end-up the same way. I trully hope not because im huge fan of FF, but i dont like this way of playing MMO so it wont bothering me to stop playing ARR(maybe i'll be sad a bit but still) and wait for something that look like EQ or FFXI.

[Kyri]

Well the keyword is "Surprised". Did you "expect" those Slugs to come out? Or did you feel like it was just going to be Pour water on tree and that's it?

And it is a low level quest.. so :P.

Fair point! And truthfully though it didn't excite me, im glad it excited you It makes my day to hear people go "OMG did you think that was gonna happen??! So cool! "
I could live off positive feedback^^

[Wolfie]

SW:TOR is not a copy paste of WOW. It's a crappy MMO which they spent almost all of their resources on doing full motion CGI and voice acting, and not enough time adding relevant or fun activities, any kind of end-game, and out-of-game tools like mobile apps and whatever.

[Wolfie]

And fyi, the subscription-only model of MMOs is largely dead these days. Not even WOW does subscription-only anymore. MMOs that don't come with mobile apps for chat or AH checking, character profiles, robust digital distribution, free trials or other free-to-play options, and heavy campaigning for subscriptions are going to die.

RIFT is still holding on fairly well and is profitable, despite being more of a "WOW clone" than any other MMO that came out. The difference between it, and other failed MMOs like Aion, SW:TOR, Age of Conan, and whatever, is that they came out with fun gameplay from the get-go, they kept their end-game updated and with fresh content constantly, and spent resources providing out-of-game experience for people. SW:TOR didn't do any of that and it bombed hard.

[strallaalaa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwwNala27lY

now if you click on something and this happens ...that is a suprise. the video looks like crap but the only one i can find. but you just need to see all the mobs that roll out this bish. this is blizkrieg an assault mission where 2 huge waves of mobs come out. now if we could go around the world with parties and click waves of mobs to fight like this all day long i'd be in heaven. i could do this all day lol.

[Kyri]

And fyi, the subscription-only model of MMOs is largely dead these days. Not even WOW does subscription-only anymore. MMOs that don't come with mobile apps for chat or AH checking, character profiles, robust digital distribution, free trials or other free-to-play options, and heavy campaigning for subscriptions are going to die.

RIFT is still holding on fairly well and is profitable, despite being more of a "WOW clone" than any other MMO that came out. The difference between it, and other failed MMOs like Aion, SW:TOR, Age of Conan, and whatever, is that they came out with fun gameplay from the get-go, they kept their end-game updated and with fresh content constantly, and spent resources providing out-of-game experience for people. SW:TOR didn't do any of that and it bombed hard.

Wow Wolfie, I totally forgot all about Rift. Havent heard that game since it's release ^^:

[Kallera]

Nope they have not. So sick of people thinking that's getting blind folded and being spin around 10 times when you do quest makes it fun.

I still remember some dumb quest in XI that sent me to Cedeave(spelling) mire to find a ??? they never said which direction or even which one of the 12 zones/exits the mire has, i got the quest in The main city of ToUA but the ??? was in some retarded place filled with soulflayers.

People need to stop thinking that the hard part of the quest should be finding the location the only hard part should be the objective of the quest. I also find it funny that some people complain about hand holding was the ones who was complain about how hard the lvl 1-20 guildleves were at one point.

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

[mikoto_qc]

Yup might take a quick look to Rift ^^ tottaly forgot about this one ^^