SE stop doing the "norm"

[-S-a-g-e]

FFXI, that should have been your core model for 2.0 not GW2, RIFT, WOW, what have ya.

Please read these comments

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10...ke-to-see-mor/

You can see, most people are tired of how MMOS are being made, and they want them back to how they were(aka FFXI)

"... What made MMOs fun back in the day (and kept me logging in) was the sheer challenge of the content. Quests are fine to me, but do we really need a HUGE question mark? Glowing trails and arrows pointing you EXACTLY where you need to go? All that does is focus the gamer to consume the content as soon as possible. And we all know how much fun that is. Questing alone doesn't make me want to logon everyday. Its the complete experience."

I'm also not saying be stuck in the past, but add new things, be creative try something new that another game hasen't but keep that whole MMO WORLD feel. To me that's adventure, companionship, not, "go here, go there, go here" That's not any types of fun, that's just a good time killer.

Edit:

From SOE:
"I have to be honest with you. We have completely blown up the design of EverQuest Next. For the last year and a half we have been working on something we are not ready to show. Why did we blow up the design? The design was evolutionary. It was EverQuest III. It was something that was slightly better than what had come before it. It was slightly better.

What we are building is something that we will be very proud to call EverQuest. It will be the largest sandbox-style MMO ever designed. The same exciting content delivered in a new way. Something you've never seen before. The MMO world has never seen before. We didn't want more kill 10 rats quests. We didn't want more of the same. If you look at the MMOs out there, they're delivering the same content over and over again. So are we. We need to change that. When we released EverQuest, we changed the world. We want to do that again with a different type of game."

Every last single person I have talked to in Alpha says the game is super fun and they love it. So what they did was right and will make the game thrive they can't take another gamble on trying something new and it crash and burn. Everquest is kind of the Father of all MMO's and they know from years and years of experience way more than SE has in the industry of what they need to do to make players enjoy their games.

ARR is the step in the only direction that is guaranteed success and that is what the company needs. So don't whine about it because it is set in motion and this is what you are going to get. If you don't like it don't play the game majority of the people are tired of reading these topics of yours though I admit you seem to have gained a little following of the remaining few forum posters.

[Thebard]

Every MMO that comes out claims to be different from all other MMO's its normal marketing bs. Just look at GW2, people actually believed it that time but its just as dull and repetative as all the rest.
All I can say is FFXIV better have a serious old school MMO expansion ready to be released in time for xmas 2014 or they can wave bye-bye to most of their subs, a bit of dlc here and there just does not cut it.

[Zezlar]

Trust me Sage, not everyone is in love with the Alpha.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Trust me Sage, not everyone is in love with the Alpha.

Of course no one can please everyone, but remember this is the infamous community arguing about grass.

[ZakarnRosewood]

Trust me Sage, not everyone is in love with the Alpha.

Trust me Zezlar, not everyone will. If you have a formula for a game that will appeal to everyone, you better get on that! You could make Billions!

[Zezlar]

Really wish I could change my forum name. So annoying haha.

[Surake]

2.0 is almost perfect. Thanks SE.

/Signed a happy 1.0 player looking forward to 2.0.

[strallaalaa]

i kinda looking forward to everquest now. was gonna quit mmo's totally if ffxiv fails me but maybe i'll give my last hopes to ever quest. though i never played any of them b4 ...if it's what ffxi took it's roots from and what they say actually happens and they stop making mmo's like the ones out now then i'm all for trying it. SE failed first launch or not, theres no excuse for casual gameplay mmo's and ever more so there is no excuse to try and call it anything else but a graphical chat room for the mentally challenged. lol.

by the way i'm not a follower of the rokien way, the true followers don't post in forums cause for some reason even though they are the ones with tons of time to enjoy real mmo's they aren't lol blogging in forums or bitching on them about how they are too hard to play and they need to be more and more casual every 5minutes of the day. who does that ...seriously.

[Felis]

thats what im not saying look the video, when they doing a quest u look the map and it show you where to go sooo easy thats holding your hands and talking you to the place. i dont want that to show. when you accept the quest they should tell you like the place where the quest most be done and when you getting closer to the place they can have that mark ontop on the mob and object make it a little more fun and make it more adventure

You never done a quest in 1.x?
Showing on the map where you need to go was there already.

[mikoto_qc]

and thats why FFXIV:ARR will end up like every MMO's who follow The WoW like. It will end F2P or dead after, hmm let's say, 1 year max.

Seriously, I've been playing SW:TOR, who is exactly the way ARR is going to be( WoW like). since it turn F2P and i have nothing else to do now that FF is closed. And here is my conclusion: after a few week, im simply getting BORED playing this style of MMO! It's just to easy. Questing over and over. This thing just never end! Easy Reward after each Quest. Every stuff have no Value.

Why do i play FFXI in first place? Because it wasnt like WoW. I like the character Grinding, Exp Party, Events, Farming, End-game, NM camp(even if i got frustrated many time ^^) I enjoy the fact that everything was takin time. In the end you always end-up very proud to achieve you'r Goal after all the efforts you place.

Now my dear Friends, ARR is going in the easy path of every casual MMO that are WoW like. Im telling you right here, right now, SE better have to put a lot of nice content to the games, unless why would pepeol play for a copy-paste of every F2P games already on the web?