SE stop doing the "norm"

[mikoto_qc]

and thats why FFXIV:ARR will end up like every MMO's who follow The WoW like. It will end F2P or dead after, hmm let's say, 1 year max.

Seriously, I've been playing SW:TOR, who is exactly the way ARR is going to be( WoW like). since it turn F2P and i have nothing else to do now that FF is closed. And here is my conclusion: after a few week, im simply getting BORED playing this style of MMO! It's just to easy. Questing over and over. This thing just never end! Easy Reward after each Quest. Every stuff have no Value.

Why do i play FFXI in first place? Because it wasnt like WoW. I like the character Grinding, Exp Party, Events, Farming, End-game, NM camp(even if i got frustrated many time ^^) I enjoy the fact that everything was takin time. In the end you always end-up very proud to achieve you'r Goal after all the efforts you place.

Now my dear Friends, ARR is going in the easy path of every casual MMO that are WoW like. Im telling you right here, right now, SE better have to put a lot of nice content to the games, unless why would pepeol play for a copy-paste of every F2P games already on the web?

[Alerith]

and thats why FFXIV:ARR will end up like every MMO's who follow The WoW like. It will end F2P or dead after, hmm let's say, 1 year max.

Seriously, I've been playing SW:TOR, who is exactly the way ARR is going to be( WoW like). since it turn F2P and i have nothing else to do now that FF is closed. And here is my conclusion: after a few week, im simply getting BORED playing this style of MMO! It's just to easy. Questing over and over. This thing just never end! Easy Reward after each Quest. Every stuff have no Value.

Why do i play FFXI in first place? Because it wasnt like WoW. I like the character Grinding, Exp Party, Events, Farming, End-game, NM camp(even if i got frustrated many time ^^) I enjoy the fact that everything was takin time. In the end you always end-up very proud to achieve you'r Goal after all the efforts you place.

Now my dear Friends, ARR is going in the easy path of every casual MMO that are WoW like. Im telling you right here, right now, SE better have to put a lot of nice content to the games, unless why would pepeol play for a copy-paste of every F2P games already on the web?

You're mistaken on so many accounts it's almost sickening.

[Kyri]

You're mistaken on so many accounts it's almost sickening.

Not quite sure where you find her so mistaken. I found it believable. Truthfully I have heard those similar words spoken by a great deal of players discussing ARR.

[Wolfie]

and thats why FFXIV:ARR will end up like every MMO's who follow The WoW like. It will end F2P or dead after, hmm let's say, 1 year max.

Seriously, I've been playing SW:TOR, who is exactly the way ARR is going to be( WoW like). since it turn F2P and i have nothing else to do now that FF is closed. And here is my conclusion: after a few week, im simply getting BORED playing this style of MMO! It's just to easy. Questing over and over. This thing just never end! Easy Reward after each Quest. Every stuff have no Value.

Why do i play FFXI in first place? Because it wasnt like WoW. I like the character Grinding, Exp Party, Events, Farming, End-game, NM camp(even if i got frustrated many time ^^) I enjoy the fact that everything was takin time. In the end you always end-up very proud to achieve you'r Goal after all the efforts you place.

Now my dear Friends, ARR is going in the easy path of every casual MMO that are WoW like. Im telling you right here, right now, SE better have to put a lot of nice content to the games, unless why would pepeol play for a copy-paste of every F2P games already on the web?

You almost make it sound like WOW doesn't have anything else in it besides quest grinds. I wonder if people like you even played the damn game for more than 10 minutes.

[Firon]

You almost make it sound like WOW doesn't have anything else in it besides quest grinds. I wonder if people like you even played the damn game for more than 10 minutes.

Nope they have not. So sick of people thinking that's getting blind folded and being spin around 10 times when you do quest makes it fun.

I still remember some dumb quest in XI that sent me to Cedeave(spelling) mire to find a ??? they never said which direction or even which one of the 12 zones/exits the mire has, i got the quest in The main city of ToUA but the ??? was in some retarded place filled with soulflayers.

People need to stop thinking that the hard part of the quest should be finding the location the only hard part should be the objective of the quest. I also find it funny that some people complain about hand holding was the ones who was complain about how hard the lvl 1-20 guildleves were at one point.

[Kallera]

Nope they have not. So sick of people thinking that's getting blind folded and being spin around 10 times when you do quest makes it fun.

I still remember some dumb quest in XI that sent me to Cedeave(spelling) mire to find a ??? they never said which direction or even which one of the 12 zones/exits the mire has, i got the quest in The main city of ToUA but the ??? was in some retarded place filled with soulflayers.

People need to stop thinking that the hard part of the quest should be finding the location the only hard part should be the objective of the quest. I also find it funny that some people complain about hand holding was the ones who was complain about how hard the lvl 1-20 guildleves were at one point.

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

[Kyri]

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

This makes me think of those few story and job quests that had us use map to locate the place get there and not find where we were supposed to go because it was above or below ground. It makes me giggle how often I would hear people WTF'ing those quests and asking why.

Man that Caedevra Mire.. I died.. SOOOOOOO many times trying to navigate there.

[Firon]

And if the objective IS to find the location, what then?

If you want someone to find something for you, you don't say go look in the Atlantic ocean you give them a general location.

They could have said anything like The the south mire of of X town/ X portal cause it was so many zones for that place. Don't pretend like being completely blind is fun.

[Kallera]

If you want someone to find something for you, you don't say go look in the Atlantic ocean you give them a general location.

They could have said anything like The the south mire of of X town/ X portal cause it was so many zones for that place. Don't pretend like being completely blind is fun.

Don't pretend exploration isn't fun either. More to the point, it keeps people playing longer, an interest for the MMO developer.

[Firon]

Don't pretend exploration isn't fun either. More to the point, it keeps people playing longer, an interest for the MMO developer.

Nothing wrong with exploring no one here is arguing for hand holding, no one does not want to be blind folded tho. There are plenty of games out there that can show you the general location and still make it tough to find, stop acting like its noway to do both.